[Military]TRML Radar container

Glimmerman · 2013-09-03, 06:56

Kovanaama created this very nice TRML container for us but we need someone to UV map it, if you are interested please let me or [R-DEV]AfterDune know.

lucky.BOY · 2013-09-03, 09:07

This could be much more optimized, especially the legs. Why does it have open entrance when there is virtually no interior?

Why did kovanaama drop it?

Sorry if I come across as harsh, but this just doesnt look like finished model to me.

PS: Also some edged screenshots from perspective would help, very hard to see any details on this.

Rhino · 2013-09-03, 09:17

ye, 13k tris is waaaay too much for something like this.... That's more than a MBT.

looks like also some bits will be zfighting quite a bit and also what excatly is the purpose of this?

Kovanaama · 2013-09-03, 10:12

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Originally Posted by lucky.BOY

This could be much more optimized, especially the legs. Why does it have open entrance when there is virtually no interior?

You can step in and then press "E" to get in commanders seat. OR we can just make simple door on the side of it but that wouldnt be so cool. :P Point out where we can optimize.

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Originally Posted by lucky.BOY

Why did kovanaama drop it?

What do you mean?

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Originally Posted by lucky.BOY

Sorry if I come across as harsh, but this just doesnt look like finished model to me.

Then point out the problems and advice. Im not professional modeller and help is always welcome.

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Originally Posted by lucky.BOY

PS: Also some edged screenshots from perspective would help, very hard to see any details on this.

Will do.

Rhino · 2013-09-03, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Kovanaama

You can step in and then press "E" to get in commanders seat. OR we can just make simple door on the side of it but that wouldnt be so cool. :P

Better to just have the door closed and you press "e" at the door to "get in" if this is an "ACV" kinda thing but not really in line with other ACVs ingame.

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Originally Posted by Kovanaama

What do you mean?

He means why aren't you UVing it yourself? Normally when someone doesn't UV something they have dropped it, as well as the model needing quite a bit of work still.

As for the model, your wasting loads of tris on lots of tiny little things that wont be visible most of the time unless your right up close to it. Tiny wires should have like 3 sides for example and no one will be able to tell the difference between that and 32 sides

Kovanaama · 2013-09-03, 10:19

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

ye, 13k tris is waaaay too much for something like this.... That's more than a MBT.

looks like also some bits will be zfighting quite a bit and also what excatly is the purpose of this?

Agreed. Tri count can be cut down. Can you point those Z-fighting places so i can try to fix them? This is static and i understand that commander will use it?

PS: How many tris this model can have? Those metal thingies on the side are screaming of tris. They can be just textured on the model but i just wanted to make them on the model.

Kovanaama · 2013-09-03, 10:28

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

Better to just have the door closed and you press "e" at the door to "get in" if this is an "ACV" kinda thing but not really in line with other ACVs ingame.

Will do.

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

He means why aren't you UVing it yourself? Normally when someone doesn't UV something they have dropped it, as well as the model needing quite a bit of work still.

I dont have skills with UV things yet. If Dutch faction wants it fast done then this is the only way. I have started modelling with FDF modellers and they have teached me a LOT but i consider myself as super beginner for now. I dont have spare time to study as fast as i would like so thats why my skills are limited.

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

As for the model, your wasting loads of tris on lots of tiny little things that wont be visible most of the time unless your right up close to it. Tiny wires should have like 3 sides for example and no one will be able to tell the difference between that and 32 sides

FDF guys warned me about that too yes.. but did i listen to them? nooooooo...

I fix the model.

Glimmerman · 2013-09-03, 10:49

The idea behind this model is to function as a ACV but more in line with a ATC tower from this static you can control main base fixed SAM launchers (NASAMS-2)

I also just noticed you are missing some X supports on the radar boom:

http://www.luchtdoelartillerie.nl/pagina.php?actie=trml

see last picture

Amok@ndy · 2013-09-03, 16:28

thread moved, we have a seperate area for statics

Kovanaama · 2013-09-05, 08:13

- Dropped the tris count from 13 000 to 6785 by deleting metal plates from sides
- Wires are now 3 sided
- Added X-supports to the boom.
- deleted some objects that are hidden or too far to see.

@Rhino, is 6785 enough and do you want the model file and look it a bit and then to give some feedback?

2013-09-03, 06:56	#1
Glimmerman Retired PR Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,228 Netherlands Location: Amsterdam	[Military]TRML Radar container Kovanaama created this very nice TRML container for us but we need someone to UV map it, if you are interested please let me or [R-DEV]AfterDune know.
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2013-09-03, 09:07	#2
lucky.BOY Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,413 Czech Republic Location: Prague	Re: [Static]TRML Radar container This could be much more optimized, especially the legs. Why does it have open entrance when there is virtually no interior? Why did kovanaama drop it? Sorry if I come across as harsh, but this just doesnt look like finished model to me. PS: Also some edged screenshots from perspective would help, very hard to see any details on this.

2013-09-03, 09:17	#3
Rhino Retired PR Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 47,448 United Kingdom Location: Somerset - UK Blog Entries: 45	Re: [Static]TRML Radar container ye, 13k tris is waaaay too much for something like this.... That's more than a MBT. looks like also some bits will be zfighting quite a bit and also what excatly is the purpose of this?

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2013-09-03, 10:49	#8
Glimmerman Retired PR Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,228 Netherlands Location: Amsterdam	Re: [Static]TRML Radar container The idea behind this model is to function as a ACV but more in line with a ATC tower from this static you can control main base fixed SAM launchers (NASAMS-2) I also just noticed you are missing some X supports on the radar boom: http://www.luchtdoelartillerie.nl/pagina.php?actie=trml see last picture
	Cheers, Glimmer Project Reality: Dutch Armed Forces on facebook

2013-09-03, 16:28	#9
Amok@ndy Retired PR Developer Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,083 Germany Location: Landshut, Bavaria Blog Entries: 9	Re: [Static]TRML Radar container thread moved, we have a seperate area for statics

2013-09-05, 08:13	#10
Kovanaama Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 241 Finland	Re: [Military]TRML Radar container - Dropped the tris count from 13 000 to 6785 by deleting metal plates from sides - Wires are now 3 sided - Added X-supports to the boom. - deleted some objects that are hidden or too far to see. @Rhino, is 6785 enough and do you want the model file and look it a bit and then to give some feedback?
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