So basically all your saying is that the Marksman kit will have the different varient of the ACOG (technically called RCO in USMC, but we just call them ACOGs) than the standard
M16s? I don't know what the Army uses, but like I said, the ACOG the USMC uses is the one without the side reticles (BDCs?).

been looking forward to this. very sleek. i don't mind the side lines, either. just a nice touch.

Very good, now you just have to hollow out the scope and make it (truly) 3-d

nah, but i wouldn't mind a bit of blur around the black.

I am sorry SoldierofFortune, but you are very wrong. I just got off Active duty as a 0341 (I was a Team leader in 4th plt because we do not use mortars in Iraq) in the Marine Corps and we DO use what WE call an RCO (Rifle Combat Optic).

It has the Bullet Drop Compensator/BDC (the verticle line with the hash marks) AND the horizontal line with hash marks for mils.

If you do not know what a BDC is, since you think it is the horizontal (side) lines I will explain. As you can see, the hash marks on the verticle line get smaller and smaller, this is to help with range to a man side target from shoulder to shoulder. So, for example, if you see a man at 400m, you would take the 4(400m) horizontal hash mark on the verticle line and place it on the mans shoulders then fire.

What you know as the ACOG is no longer being used in the Marine Corps infantry and hasn't been for some time now.

Also, the person who mentioned the "glowy thing" is a self-illuminated chevron (the reticle). It utilizes a tritium strip on top of the RCO to "light-up" the chevron. A common practice for infantry is to use black electrical tape to cover up a portion of the "strip" to help reduce the amount of light being filtered into the chevron. Often times in very bright conditions, the light will cause the chevron to become too bright and "fuzzy" looking, hence the tape usage.

Either you are not really in or you are a POG, because if you were, you would know the electrical tape trick for the chevron being too bright...or a boot.

What I would like to know is, will the BDC be utilized like it is in real life or is it just an aesthetic update?

Nice! this one look's more accurate.

[QUOTE=00SoldierofFortune00;bt625]That's pretty close to real life, but it is still off. The only thing off is the reticles on the side which aren't there on a real ACOG. There is no actual need for those because the horizontal lines are used to gauge range and actually shoot with, with the exception of the tip of the Chevron and the tip of the Vertical black line.


For example, if you knew your target was at 300M, you would aim in with the tip of the vertical line. (If your target was at 25-100M, I believe it is the tip of the red chevron. I forgot the exact range, but that's pretty close, brain fart lol)

If your target was at an unknown distance, you would match up one of the 5 horizontal lines (say the 4 one for example) and if the line matched up perfectly with the figure of your human target, he would be at 400M. You would then use that cross to fire with. The one below that without a number is 500M, then 600M, 700M, 800 etc. But you guys did a good job of making them smaller and smaller to actually model range.

So there is actually no need for those side reticles (unless they are being used for something else)

I know there probably isn't anyway to do it cus of game limitations, but I wish the reticles could actually be ranged ingame so you would use it how you actually would IRL and not always have to use the tip of the chevron.


This is the one you guys are currently using ingame.

[url]http://www.laruetactical.com/pics/TrijiconTA31RCO/myalbum/reticle.jpg[/url]

This is the actual one IRL (the one I fired with at least and know of that the USMC uses.)

[url]http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/graphics/00000001/TJ-TA31F.jpg[/url]

Samething basically, just without the side reticles.


BTW, the red glowy things sucks when you actually firing the weapon. It's too bright IMO, but it works good at night.[/QUOTE]

Seconded. I don't know why the Dev team always seems to do this, but they fix things...in their own way. All they really need was a resizing on this one. "Don't fix what ain't broken" comes to mind..... :razz:

I use what we call the RCO (but we still call it an ACOG anyways), but I wasn't sure if grunts used something different now or not (pogue, not a boot lol) so I pmed Ironcomatose to come in here since he is currently a grunt, but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

And yea, I knew the electrical tape trick lol. I usually just lift the cover off of the RCO and keep it on there and it saves you some trouble and blackens the chevron up a bit without using tape which could get loose or fall off when wet. But I was just mentioning it because they (makers) should really just made it lighter from the get go, but I could see how that would hamper it for shooting at night or low light. I've heard there is was an ACOG that used to be made with a straight black chevron and worked just fine in the past though.



Dude, I just explained that above in my first post (the tip of the verticle line=300M, then first horizontal is 400M, second 500M etc.), I didn't know what the name (BDC) stood for though, but I already explained the ranging concept above (did you read it?). What I have been referring to the whole time is the long horizontal lines on each side of the actual aiming reticle which I've never seen when looking down a RCO. The 2 long horizontal lines to the direct left and right of the chevron with the (5 big, 4 small) verticle lines. Sorry if there was some confusion there. I wasn't talking about what you think I was talking about. And if the version with the 2 long horizontal lines is still being used, what are the horizontal lines for exactly?