Posted in: Mapping
Posted 2009-11-26 at 05:49 by IronTaxi
So I find myself with far too much time and the urge to share some more of the things that go into map making.
This time around I want to go over a brief thought process for placing statics and how I personally go about creating a "zone" or "scene" in a map.
First lets set the scene
The location I've chosen to use is a raised corner section of a chinese city. My objective is create a dense core area with enough buildings to make it feel full without being excessively heavy on the game engine. (not sure if I'll succeed!)
[IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3314/bf2editor20091125185349.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4335/bf2editor20091125185328.jpg[/IMG]
In the next image I'll outline the layout and the objectives for the area.
As we can see below we have the following features in the space.
1. 2 main roads/ramps on 2 sides.
2. A stairwell on the bottom left
3. an entrance to the neighbourhood on the top right.
So I've decided to layout a street down the center with the buildings ringing the area. (in green)
The natural objective of course is the stairwell to access the lower areas.
With so much exposure along the walls I'm also going to make a point of partially isolating the areas along the walls so players arent getting picked off from long shots while in the area. (in red)
[IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7992/layoutx.jpg[/IMG]
Reality vs. Gameplay
As much as PR is all about reality and I could create a bunch of closed of private lots. put a chain on the front gate and have the street be the only real access it not very fun for gameplay and doesn't give us much to make the player think. (not to mention it becomes a killing zone for the good ole MG.) :)
SO I'm going to layout with gameplay in mind and keep an eye on making things seems logical as I can.
here is the basic layout I came up with .
[IMG]http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/453/bf2editor20091125185509.jpg[/IMG]
In the image below I've defined 3 paths through the area that I am going to create. each one will have pros and cons.The players will have to weigh the risks and benefits for each way.. (which I have yet to create)
Also notice the green circle builing. I have added this as a kind of gate keeper for the street and the stairs. This building has an open second story and will provide great views both out into the city and down the local street. (I'll show the views later) I'm trying to add danger and at the same time sweeten the deal for taking a path through this neighbourhood.
[IMG]http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4601/layout2l.jpg[/IMG]
So now I need to refine these areas with walls and other objects. I want to create semi private spaces for each house and make them feel a bit more occupied than a bunch of buildings.
Below is the result
[IMG]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5615/bf2editor20091125194159.jpg[/IMG]
So I have defined three destinct routes with benefits and risks. (assuming you are entering from the top and making your way to the stairs) Although It might not seem like it in the shot all other paths are blocked.
1. The upper path. [B]Benefits:[/B] Well covered from the green 2 storey building if it's occupied, well covered along the ramp and towards the rest of the city. [B]Risks:[/B] Direct exposure to the green 2 story when exiting rear towards the stairs. [B]BONUS:[/B] 1. Can use the small garden area bottom left for cover 2. Can use the alternate path marked in blue to give 2 possible outlets
2. The middle path: [B]Benefits:[/B] fast and direct. Squad can spread out. [B]Risks:[/B] obviously a sitting duck for anyone in the green building with an MG and Irontaxi tags floating over their head. [B]BONUS:[/B] marked blue buildng bottom right is partially enterable. Good cover.
3. The lower path. [B]Benefits:[/B] Almost zero exposure to the green building. [B]Risks[/B]: Very open to the rest of the city with a constriction point midway against the edge of the wall (aka shooting gallery for anyone watching) [B]BONUS[/B]: None.
[IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5958/layout3r.jpg[/IMG]
So which one would you take? Hopefully via this process I'll make players stop and think (or run blindly down the middle and get pawned)
Just going to post some quick pictures to illustrate some of the features of each path and what they look like in detail..
First the upper path with cover and 2 exit routes and the garden for cover (needs a back wall yet or some bushes)
[IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8978/upperpathwithcover.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/613/2pathsout.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3662/gardencover.jpg[/IMG]
The main road and the safe house.
[IMG]http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3239/safe.jpg[/IMG]
The lower path with the constricted exposed route
[IMG]http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1879/constrictpath.jpg[/IMG]
Views from the green 2 storey building. rear, left and right views
[IMG]http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5176/backview.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3749/frontleft.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8374/frontrighto.jpg[/IMG]
and finally the finsihed layout with some terrain painting and trees. Will add some more walls / bushes and decorations of course. But the meat and bones are there.
[IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5723/bf2editor20091125214441.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8517/bf2editor20091125214449.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5711/bf2editor20091125214453.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1535/bf2editor20091125214530.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1484/bf2editor20091125214537.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1484/bf2editor20091125214537.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/267/finsih.jpg[/IMG]
Anyway...thats about it..the zone is created. has an objective(stairs), a problem (green 2 storey where taxi is waiting with his MG) and several possible solutions. the anatomy of a map space.
So my overall objective is to create alot of these problem spaces and then interconnect them with filler buildings. the great advantge of this map is it is supposed to be chaotic and random. which really gives me alot of freedom.
[B]Note:[/B] You could always, as a player, take one of the side ramps and avoid the area but they are VERY exposed and there is no way out of them once you are on them...
Cheers Gents... happy mapping.
This time around I want to go over a brief thought process for placing statics and how I personally go about creating a "zone" or "scene" in a map.
First lets set the scene
The location I've chosen to use is a raised corner section of a chinese city. My objective is create a dense core area with enough buildings to make it feel full without being excessively heavy on the game engine. (not sure if I'll succeed!)
[IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3314/bf2editor20091125185349.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4335/bf2editor20091125185328.jpg[/IMG]
In the next image I'll outline the layout and the objectives for the area.
As we can see below we have the following features in the space.
1. 2 main roads/ramps on 2 sides.
2. A stairwell on the bottom left
3. an entrance to the neighbourhood on the top right.
So I've decided to layout a street down the center with the buildings ringing the area. (in green)
The natural objective of course is the stairwell to access the lower areas.
With so much exposure along the walls I'm also going to make a point of partially isolating the areas along the walls so players arent getting picked off from long shots while in the area. (in red)
[IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7992/layoutx.jpg[/IMG]
Reality vs. Gameplay
As much as PR is all about reality and I could create a bunch of closed of private lots. put a chain on the front gate and have the street be the only real access it not very fun for gameplay and doesn't give us much to make the player think. (not to mention it becomes a killing zone for the good ole MG.) :)
SO I'm going to layout with gameplay in mind and keep an eye on making things seems logical as I can.
here is the basic layout I came up with .
[IMG]http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/453/bf2editor20091125185509.jpg[/IMG]
In the image below I've defined 3 paths through the area that I am going to create. each one will have pros and cons.The players will have to weigh the risks and benefits for each way.. (which I have yet to create)
Also notice the green circle builing. I have added this as a kind of gate keeper for the street and the stairs. This building has an open second story and will provide great views both out into the city and down the local street. (I'll show the views later) I'm trying to add danger and at the same time sweeten the deal for taking a path through this neighbourhood.
[IMG]http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4601/layout2l.jpg[/IMG]
So now I need to refine these areas with walls and other objects. I want to create semi private spaces for each house and make them feel a bit more occupied than a bunch of buildings.
Below is the result
[IMG]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5615/bf2editor20091125194159.jpg[/IMG]
So I have defined three destinct routes with benefits and risks. (assuming you are entering from the top and making your way to the stairs) Although It might not seem like it in the shot all other paths are blocked.
1. The upper path. [B]Benefits:[/B] Well covered from the green 2 storey building if it's occupied, well covered along the ramp and towards the rest of the city. [B]Risks:[/B] Direct exposure to the green 2 story when exiting rear towards the stairs. [B]BONUS:[/B] 1. Can use the small garden area bottom left for cover 2. Can use the alternate path marked in blue to give 2 possible outlets
2. The middle path: [B]Benefits:[/B] fast and direct. Squad can spread out. [B]Risks:[/B] obviously a sitting duck for anyone in the green building with an MG and Irontaxi tags floating over their head. [B]BONUS:[/B] marked blue buildng bottom right is partially enterable. Good cover.
3. The lower path. [B]Benefits:[/B] Almost zero exposure to the green building. [B]Risks[/B]: Very open to the rest of the city with a constriction point midway against the edge of the wall (aka shooting gallery for anyone watching) [B]BONUS[/B]: None.
[IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5958/layout3r.jpg[/IMG]
So which one would you take? Hopefully via this process I'll make players stop and think (or run blindly down the middle and get pawned)
Just going to post some quick pictures to illustrate some of the features of each path and what they look like in detail..
First the upper path with cover and 2 exit routes and the garden for cover (needs a back wall yet or some bushes)
[IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8978/upperpathwithcover.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/613/2pathsout.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3662/gardencover.jpg[/IMG]
The main road and the safe house.
[IMG]http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3239/safe.jpg[/IMG]
The lower path with the constricted exposed route
[IMG]http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1879/constrictpath.jpg[/IMG]
Views from the green 2 storey building. rear, left and right views
[IMG]http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5176/backview.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3749/frontleft.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8374/frontrighto.jpg[/IMG]
and finally the finsihed layout with some terrain painting and trees. Will add some more walls / bushes and decorations of course. But the meat and bones are there.
[IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5723/bf2editor20091125214441.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8517/bf2editor20091125214449.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5711/bf2editor20091125214453.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1535/bf2editor20091125214530.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1484/bf2editor20091125214537.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1484/bf2editor20091125214537.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/267/finsih.jpg[/IMG]
Anyway...thats about it..the zone is created. has an objective(stairs), a problem (green 2 storey where taxi is waiting with his MG) and several possible solutions. the anatomy of a map space.
So my overall objective is to create alot of these problem spaces and then interconnect them with filler buildings. the great advantge of this map is it is supposed to be chaotic and random. which really gives me alot of freedom.
[B]Note:[/B] You could always, as a player, take one of the side ramps and avoid the area but they are VERY exposed and there is no way out of them once you are on them...
Cheers Gents... happy mapping.
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Posted 2009-11-26 at 07:11 by DankE_SPB -
alright, now give me those statics >
nice tut, this is the thing I always try and help new mappers understand.Posted 2009-11-26 at 07:17 by HughJass -
Posted 2009-11-26 at 08:14 by Bringerof_D -
Posted 2009-11-26 at 10:07 by Aquiller -
Posted 2009-11-26 at 13:35 by Spec -
Taxi continues to show why he is my favorite PR mapper!
Posted 2009-11-26 at 13:48 by d1sp0sabl3H3r0 -
I was thinking about suggesting to make the maps more cod-like.. but now i dont need to, its awsum!
Posted 2009-11-26 at 14:03 by Arnoldio -
Posted 2009-11-26 at 16:35 by Gosu-Rizzle -
We need Helicopters on this map!!
Posted 2009-11-26 at 16:38 by antiiraq -
Posted 2009-11-26 at 18:06 by Rangu