AK-47 Accuracy... really?

JKJudgeX · 2009-05-19, 19:30

So the next patch will, wait... DECREASE AK-47 accuracy?

Guys, seriously... it's already 10 times worse than it really is...

YouTube - AK47 M16 Comparison - part 1
M16 vs. AK-47...

M16 shows more accuracy, but, not by nearly the factor it's given in PR and other games... plus, a single round from an AK penetrates much better... plus, you have to factor in the different ammo types... using heavier, more penetrating M16 ammo, you will lose accuracy, using lighter, less penetrating AK-47 ammo, you will gain accuracy.

Pay attention to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TfoWHOTSvs

I use a similar setup, and the accuracy he is describing is just below 2 MOA, which is not impossible for an AK to achieve... I get close, myself, and I have a crappy AK...nothing that's available in Europe/middle east, like Yugos, Hungarians, Norincos, etc etc...

But anyway... yes, the M-16 is more accurate, but the accuracy of the AK in PR and most other games is HORRIBLY wrong... soldier fatigue/nervousness etc etc included.

The fact of the matter is that within 100 yards, it's negligible on a human sized target, out to 200 yards, barely noticeable, and at 300 yards it starts to matter more and more compared to the m-16/m-4 etc etc... then factor in various barrel lengths, optic configurations, ammo, etc... the case for making the AK that much less accurate is pretty weak until you get to 300+ yards.

Rudd · 2009-05-19, 19:33

its fine, I was sniping snipers off of USMC main on fallujah the other day, 3 seconds settle time and its bang on the money.

JKJudgeX · 2009-05-19, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

its fine, I was sniping snipers off of USMC main on fallujah the other day, 3 seconds settle time and its bang on the money.

It'll be fine when you can get a grouping even half as good as either of those youtube videos at 100 yards with the same shot delay used in the videos ( < 1 second)

~~Ace42~~ · 2009-05-19, 19:45

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Originally Posted by JKJudgeX

It'll be fine when you can get a grouping even half as good as either of those youtube videos at 100 yards with the same shot delay used in the videos ( < 1 second)

Deviation in BF engine games is handled by several variables. Upping the AK-47's base deviation (it's best level of accuracy), along with increasing the prone multiplier would make it harder to "snipe" with it - and that would let you LOWER the fire-dev increments so that groupings are tighter.

x.trEm*e · 2009-05-19, 20:02

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Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

its fine, I was sniping snipers off of USMC main on fallujah the other day, 3 seconds settle time and its bang on the money.

seems that going after all your posts you are a freaking uber pro with unhuman powers and where life in PR-nights is too easy for you as you sit there smoking a cigar and drinking a beer and kill everyone now with closed eyes...

as you need more and more things that make a little PR soldiers life harder...

You are kinda my hero now you know

(sry for offtopic)

Jigsaw · 2009-05-19, 21:42

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Originally Posted by x.trEm*e

seems that going after all your posts you are a freaking uber pro with unhuman powers and where life in PR-nights is too easy for you as you sit there smoking a cigar and drinking a beer and kill everyone now with closed eyes...

as you need more and more things that make a little PR soldiers life harder...

You are kinda my hero now you know

(sry for offtopic)

Lol, don't let him fool ya. He's actually the biggest n00b

Rudd · 2009-05-19, 23:47

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Originally Posted by jigsaw-uk

Lol, don't let him fool ya. He's actually the biggest n00b

Only with RKGs...don't right click kids.

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You are kinda my hero now you know

When I put the effort in, my squad is usually top scorer with a positive K/D,and I often get the best score, and mostly I get K/Ds of more than 2:1. But plenty of times I'm a n00b :P

my xfire is trekkyaaron if you fancy squadding up sometime.

x.trEm*e · 2009-05-20, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

Lol, don't let him fool ya. He's actually the biggest n00b

When I put the effort in, my squad is usually top scorer with a positive K/D,and I often get the best score, and mostly I get K/Ds of more than 2:1. But plenty of times I'm a n00b :P

my xfire is trekkyaaron if you fancy squadding up sometime.(got no xfire

)

yeah I often have to bring my 2 other squaddies onto the ring and onto the right team and iGi is always bloody full... so yes mate when I´m around alone I gonna hop in for some rounds to see stats like 6 iGi´s one after another on top with figures like 3574 2378 72 2...

@topic: finally there are ppl who know what they are talking about without wikipedia and youtube
go and apply for PR DEV team as weapon and ammo pro

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Here's a related question: does anyone even use the AK47 in-game? Whenever I play Chechens, Taliban or Insurgents everyone is using either AK74U or just the regular sights/scoped AK74 anyway.

Yep I do often as chechen and as taliban, it aint bad for some more controlled stuff than aks74u... And with the new patch only one dude will be able to use aks74u in the squad so that topic here is important

Zimmer · 2009-05-19, 19:38

AK is the freaking sniper rifle dude.

JKJudgeX · 2009-05-19, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Zimmer

AK is the freaking sniper rifle dude.

I guess I'm gonna have to make a damned PR video to show you what I'm talking about.

2009-05-19, 19:30	#1
JKJudgeX Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56 United States of America	AK-47 Accuracy... really? So the next patch will, wait... DECREASE AK-47 accuracy? Guys, seriously... it's already 10 times worse than it really is... YouTube - AK47 M16 Comparison - part 1 M16 vs. AK-47... M16 shows more accuracy, but, not by nearly the factor it's given in PR and other games... plus, a single round from an AK penetrates much better... plus, you have to factor in the different ammo types... using heavier, more penetrating M16 ammo, you will lose accuracy, using lighter, less penetrating AK-47 ammo, you will gain accuracy. Pay attention to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TfoWHOTSvs I use a similar setup, and the accuracy he is describing is just below 2 MOA, which is not impossible for an AK to achieve... I get close, myself, and I have a crappy AK...nothing that's available in Europe/middle east, like Yugos, Hungarians, Norincos, etc etc... But anyway... yes, the M-16 is more accurate, but the accuracy of the AK in PR and most other games is HORRIBLY wrong... soldier fatigue/nervousness etc etc included. The fact of the matter is that within 100 yards, it's negligible on a human sized target, out to 200 yards, barely noticeable, and at 300 yards it starts to matter more and more compared to the m-16/m-4 etc etc... then factor in various barrel lengths, optic configurations, ammo, etc... the case for making the AK that much less accurate is pretty weak until you get to 300+ yards.

2009-05-19, 19:33	#2
Rudd Retired PR Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 21,157 United Kingdom Location: Brighton Blog Entries: 2	Re: AK-47 Accuracy... really? its fine, I was sniping snipers off of USMC main on fallujah the other day, 3 seconds settle time and its bang on the money.

2009-05-19, 19:38	#9
Zimmer Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,066 Norway	Re: AK-47 Accuracy... really? AK is the freaking sniper rifle dude.
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