Weapon Placement

Tacamo · 2004-08-11, 01:39

In other communities I've been in I've seen this topic argued to death but never seen a true resolution to the problem. Looking at most if not all FPS games past and present the placement of the weapon model has always been wrong in respects to it being fired and it's location. The POV in most games seems to be coming out of the stomach in regards to where the weapon is located. Rainbow 6, Rogue Spear and Ghost Recon simply went without the model but that isn't exactly a realistic solution either. Anyone else have any potential ideas?

Black Beret · 2004-08-11, 01:42

I'm sure that we'll try and make the POV as realistic as possible.

But who knows, maybe BF2 has already fixed that problem?

JS.Fortnight.A · 2004-08-11, 01:51

Yeah thats what I've been going on about! I can't stand having the barrel of the gun being 'the face'. One reason being that cheaters can put a mark on their monitors for showing where the x-hairs are. What should be done is to add another axis or something to the gun, so your gun is kind of swing there next to you as you run, not where its at in FPS like BF42/DC and others.

Dr.Spangle · 2004-08-11, 03:03

Cheaters might put a dot there, but that isn't going to help them much. With a recoil based accuracy system, it'll bounce all over the place.

GA · 2004-08-11, 06:18

this might help y'all out a little bit....ive got a pick of the POV for bf2

with the gun at the rest position

and one with the gun at the aiming postion

Dr.Spangle · 2004-08-11, 06:28

Notice the awesome effects there on the scope.

GA · 2004-08-11, 06:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Spangle

Notice the awesome effects there on the scope.

there are none

.....there should be a red dot in the center of the optic sight...but instead they just used the forward sight on the gun to be in the center to aim with instead of using the aimpoint sight correctly

this is the current aimpoint sight that is being used in military today....

Comp M2

and this is what it should look like when your aiming down it(but just add in the forward sight of whatever gun your shooting)

i should know...cause i have one on my preban 16" barrelled flat top ar15....just like an m4 but just single shot

also....when you look down it while sighting in....it should be a clear picture and not red...the only thing that should be red(besides the red dot) on it that you can see is the end lense and you can only see it from the otherside(i.e. whatever its aiming at)

Black Beret · 2004-08-11, 07:21

As GA stated, notice how the entire lens is red -- it should be clear. And the biggest problem is that the illuminated reticule is missing.

DrZero · 2004-08-11, 08:07

those POV pictures dont really show enough to be able to tell, thanks though GA

Ugly Duck · 2004-08-11, 15:52

Hopefully trauma has gotten through to DICE that they need to fix the damned POV problem, something they have yet to do. Tanelorn said the problem isnt movijng the POV, its that the player models are screwed up. The head isnt actualy solid so if the POV is the head than you can stick it through walls and hence see and shoot through them. DICE better fix this, its quite anoying.

2004-08-11, 01:39	#1
Tacamo Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 602	Weapon Placement In other communities I've been in I've seen this topic argued to death but never seen a true resolution to the problem. Looking at most if not all FPS games past and present the placement of the weapon model has always been wrong in respects to it being fired and it's location. The POV in most games seems to be coming out of the stomach in regards to where the weapon is located. Rainbow 6, Rogue Spear and Ghost Recon simply went without the model but that isn't exactly a realistic solution either. Anyone else have any potential ideas?
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2004-08-11, 01:51	#3
JS.Fortnight.A Retired PR Developer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,469 United States of America Location: Atlanta, GA	Yeah thats what I've been going on about! I can't stand having the barrel of the gun being 'the face'. One reason being that cheaters can put a mark on their monitors for showing where the x-hairs are. What should be done is to add another axis or something to the gun, so your gun is kind of swing there next to you as you run, not where its at in FPS like BF42/DC and others.
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2004-08-11, 06:18	#5
GA Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 39 Location: Georgia	this might help y'all out a little bit....ive got a pick of the POV for bf2 with the gun at the rest position and one with the gun at the aiming postion
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2004-08-11, 01:42	#2
Black Beret Retired Military Advisor Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,022	I'm sure that we'll try and make the POV as realistic as possible. But who knows, maybe BF2 has already fixed that problem?

2004-08-11, 03:03	#4
Dr.Spangle Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Cyberspace	Cheaters might put a dot there, but that isn't going to help them much. With a recoil based accuracy system, it'll bounce all over the place.

2004-08-11, 06:28	#6
Dr.Spangle Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Cyberspace	Notice the awesome effects there on the scope.

2004-08-11, 07:21	#8
Black Beret Retired Military Advisor Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,022	As GA stated, notice how the entire lens is red -- it should be clear. And the biggest problem is that the illuminated reticule is missing.

2004-08-11, 08:07	#9
DrZero Retired PR Developer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 936 Afghanistan Location: Melbourne, Australia	those POV pictures dont really show enough to be able to tell, thanks though GA

2004-08-11, 15:52	#10
Ugly Duck Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 975 Location: MD, USA	Hopefully trauma has gotten through to DICE that they need to fix the damned POV problem, something they have yet to do. Tanelorn said the problem isnt movijng the POV, its that the player models are screwed up. The head isnt actualy solid so if the POV is the head than you can stick it through walls and hence see and shoot through them. DICE better fix this, its quite anoying.