v1.0 Open Beta Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas

Bluedrake42 · 2013-07-05, 23:09

I have been very happy with the changes made to the Commander UAV
However I understand the need for balance, and that it may be a little overpowered atm
Regardless, I would really like to see an alternative solution to reintroducing refueling times

Let's be honest... the Commander is always either stuck at main, or building FOBs
The Commander is an incredibly important role, and the UAV is an important tool
However it doesn't feel like these two things integrate into the game as well as they could

Instead of forcing the Commander to stay at main, or just build FOBs...
We could combine the two into a more interesting and engaging role

My idea: (this may be hardcoded, but its still something I think would be great)
Commander Vehicle and/or FOB constructed Command Station.

The Command Vehicle would be a mobile command station, that allows the commander to both access the UAV and command forces from a moving perspective. The Command Vehicle could also carry a single large crate, which would allow the Commander to build FOB's while also functioning in the field as a minor logistics unit.

The UAV would still have unlimited fuel, but would be tied to this Vehicle, and could only be deployed within a fixed range of the Vehicle. This means that if the Commander wishes to get an Aerial view of an enemy held objective, he must first get within a certain range of the objective. This would require some strategy, since the UAV would no longer be just an immortal eye in the sky...

This would make the UAV less over powered, since the enemy will have the ability to destroy the command station, however it would also keep the Commander more involved, since instead of just having to derp around until the refueling times are over, he could focus on taking care of his asset and supporting the team, much like tank crews.

An alternative method to this would be to implement a FOB Command structure, that does the same thing as the command vehicle, but is instead a fixed position that can only be built next to fobs.

Ultimately of course, this is just an idea, mainly I just want to discuss alternatives to bringing back refueling times, and also discuss ways on making the Commander role more interesting. I'm interested in hearing feedback on this idea, and also suggestions on different ways to tweak the Commander to be more engaging overall.

Gracler · 2013-07-05, 23:24

I'm pretty sure this has been suggested before but i fully support something like this.

I'd even go one step further and engage myself in creating a commander vehicle and see If I can make it work.

I was thinking something that would be reversed of a normal vehicle.

seat F1 is the commander seat that works the same as the current uav trailer

If F2 (driver) is occupied then the vehicle will undeploy and prepare for going mobile.

The vehicle can only be occupied by a commander.... no-one else would be able to drive it.

It should be able to spawn near it when it is parked for some time....

The uav should definitely have some refueling time again.... it will add some balance and it would give the commander some relief time..... staring at a spinning map for hours is a bit tedious.

I know this idea is in deep water but..... if the mini-map was removed from everyone except commander, then the command vehicle would give proximity mini-map information team wide of where friendly's are.... like in a 1000 m. radius of the vehicle. That would imitate that the commander is concentrating on friendly movement updates in that region. I also like Bluedrakes suggestion though of having the UAV deploy near the trailer.

Bluedrake42 · 2013-07-06, 00:55

if you started working on something, I'd love to help you test it

Gracler · 2013-07-06, 03:33

I appreciate that but this project is in the future as i have other things to attend to first

iowajohn · 2013-07-06, 08:29

I like no re-fuels. But its also an instant arrival type situation too. What if there were deployment time delays (and extraction), but once it was there it would be active until you decided to relocate its position. Perhaps the deley times could be reletive to the distance from your command post.

Steeps · 2013-07-06, 14:00

I would love this. The IDF already have a suitable vehicle being the M113 with the crate in it. Just have to reprogram (if possible) to have a UAV station.

Tarranauha200 · 2013-07-06, 14:41

Commander should NOT build FOBs. Commander should spend his time commanding the squads.

Bluedrake42 · 2013-07-06, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarranauha200

Commander should NOT build FOBs. Commander should spend his time commanding the squads.

either way I think its just a good idea to motivate the commander to get out of main

Pvt.LHeureux · 2013-07-06, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluedrake42

either way I think its just a good idea to motivate the commander to get out of main

True. Why having the CO rally, if you can't use the UAV out of main?

waldov · 2013-07-08, 20:15

Yeah id like to see the commander well, commanding more.

2013-07-05, 23:09	#1
Bluedrake42 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,904 United States of America Location: Louisville KY	Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas I have been very happy with the changes made to the Commander UAV However I understand the need for balance, and that it may be a little overpowered atm Regardless, I would really like to see an alternative solution to reintroducing refueling times Let's be honest... the Commander is always either stuck at main, or building FOBs The Commander is an incredibly important role, and the UAV is an important tool However it doesn't feel like these two things integrate into the game as well as they could Instead of forcing the Commander to stay at main, or just build FOBs... We could combine the two into a more interesting and engaging role My idea: (this may be hardcoded, but its still something I think would be great) Commander Vehicle and/or FOB constructed Command Station. The Command Vehicle would be a mobile command station, that allows the commander to both access the UAV and command forces from a moving perspective. The Command Vehicle could also carry a single large crate, which would allow the Commander to build FOB's while also functioning in the field as a minor logistics unit. The UAV would still have unlimited fuel, but would be tied to this Vehicle, and could only be deployed within a fixed range of the Vehicle. This means that if the Commander wishes to get an Aerial view of an enemy held objective, he must first get within a certain range of the objective. This would require some strategy, since the UAV would no longer be just an immortal eye in the sky... This would make the UAV less over powered, since the enemy will have the ability to destroy the command station, however it would also keep the Commander more involved, since instead of just having to derp around until the refueling times are over, he could focus on taking care of his asset and supporting the team, much like tank crews. An alternative method to this would be to implement a FOB Command structure, that does the same thing as the command vehicle, but is instead a fixed position that can only be built next to fobs. Ultimately of course, this is just an idea, mainly I just want to discuss alternatives to bringing back refueling times, and also discuss ways on making the Commander role more interesting. I'm interested in hearing feedback on this idea, and also suggestions on different ways to tweak the Commander to be more engaging overall.

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2013-07-05, 23:24	#2
Gracler Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 943 Denmark	Re: Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas I'm pretty sure this has been suggested before but i fully support something like this. I'd even go one step further and engage myself in creating a commander vehicle and see If I can make it work. I was thinking something that would be reversed of a normal vehicle. seat F1 is the commander seat that works the same as the current uav trailer If F2 (driver) is occupied then the vehicle will undeploy and prepare for going mobile. The vehicle can only be occupied by a commander.... no-one else would be able to drive it. It should be able to spawn near it when it is parked for some time.... The uav should definitely have some refueling time again.... it will add some balance and it would give the commander some relief time..... staring at a spinning map for hours is a bit tedious. I know this idea is in deep water but..... if the mini-map was removed from everyone except commander, then the command vehicle would give proximity mini-map information team wide of where friendly's are.... like in a 1000 m. radius of the vehicle. That would imitate that the commander is concentrating on friendly movement updates in that region. I also like Bluedrakes suggestion though of having the UAV deploy near the trailer.
Gracler Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 943 Denmark
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2013-07-06, 00:55	#3
Bluedrake42 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,904 United States of America Location: Louisville KY	Re: Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas if you started working on something, I'd love to help you test it

2013-07-06, 03:33	#4
Gracler Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 943 Denmark	Re: Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas I appreciate that but this project is in the future as i have other things to attend to first
Gracler Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 943 Denmark

2013-07-06, 08:29	#5
iowajohn Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 10 United States of America	Re: Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas I like no re-fuels. But its also an instant arrival type situation too. What if there were deployment time delays (and extraction), but once it was there it would be active until you decided to relocate its position. Perhaps the deley times could be reletive to the distance from your command post.

2013-07-06, 14:00	#6
Steeps Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,984 United States of America	I would love this. The IDF already have a suitable vehicle being the M113 with the crate in it. Just have to reprogram (if possible) to have a UAV station.

2013-07-06, 14:41	#7
Tarranauha200 Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,135 Finland Location: Winland	Re: Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas Commander should NOT build FOBs. Commander should spend his time commanding the squads.

2013-07-08, 20:15	#10
waldov Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 717 Cape Verde	Re: Commander UAV Feedback and Ideas Yeah id like to see the commander well, commanding more.
waldov Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 717 Cape Verde