[Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar - Page 15

m1oh7 · 2009-09-10, 00:13

this makes my "forward observer" class idea more tuned for the game hehe

arjan · 2009-09-10, 15:15

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Originally Posted by m1oh7

this makes my "forward observer" class idea more tuned for the game hehe

and that has been suggested before

boilerrat · 2009-09-21, 00:38

Please god don't add the FH2 system of mortars / arty, that is too damn easy and godlike.

An effective mortar team should be like 2-3 people operating it and a forward observer.

whiskey27 · 2009-09-23, 03:53

Great sounding addition, a few ideas from a 11C(indirect fire infantryman).

Is there a way to set it up as a separate squad that the commander can appoint to a squad? And then the 81mm mortar can be deployed by the SL in that squad. Also, whoever suggested laser guided mortars, well that just defeats the purpose of adding in player used mortars. Although with a good mortar team, and the new UAV system, it could make for a really bad time for the bad guys... Which is why it would probably be good to add some sort of 60mm mortar system for insurgents

Bringerof_D · 2009-09-23, 07:17

it would be so simple, do it exactly as FH2 has it, but create add to it the deviation system only instead of measuring movement to determine the increase it is based on distance, maximum accuracy at the shortest range would be within 4-6 metres of your target beyond that and your inaccuracy increases

PlasmaSoldier · 2009-09-24, 14:32

At last a mortar in-game :P

McBumLuv · 2009-09-24, 19:50

Definitely the only way to do it would have to be like in reality. The mortar team can get mearusing equippement and reference sticks, and they should be forced to use trigonometry to calculate the angle at which to fire it in order to land a hit.

Jonny · 2009-09-24, 20:13

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Originally Posted by McLuv

Definitely the only way to do it would have to be like in reality. The mortar team can get mearusing equippement and reference sticks, and they should be forced to use trigonometry to calculate the angle at which to fire it in order to land a hit.

Nope.
the only reason to bring any manual trig calculation into this is to find the range from map coordinates. The rest is results derived from VERY complex equations which are put into tables so nothing can interfere with the electronics you would need to solve them in a sensible time. Even simplified equations of position depend on powers of the number e, finding the angle you need to fire at is a whole lot harder.

Sinse we already have the distance given on the HUD, no trig is needed. you need a fire request, a few test shells to walk them onto the target, and a mic to let everyone else operating the mortars know exactly what angle to fire at.

UKrealplayER666 · 2009-09-24, 20:46

Personaly i exeled at triginometry at school so i would quite happily do it that way but i like the easyer option, more player freindly

McBumLuv · 2009-09-25, 02:09

Ye, was just gonna mention Jonny that the introduction of Mortars would be another reason against having 3d markers on the screen. It's probably the main reason that they were removed for FH2.

Wouldn't mind having a table though to consult, being brought up with the Q rose or something along those lines.

2009-09-10, 00:13	#141
m1oh7 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 26 United States of America	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar this makes my "forward observer" class idea more tuned for the game hehe

2009-09-21, 00:38	#143
boilerrat Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,463 United States of America Location: Michigan	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar Please god don't add the FH2 system of mortars / arty, that is too damn easy and godlike. An effective mortar team should be like 2-3 people operating it and a forward observer.

2009-09-23, 03:53	#144
whiskey27 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 United States of America	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar Great sounding addition, a few ideas from a 11C(indirect fire infantryman). Is there a way to set it up as a separate squad that the commander can appoint to a squad? And then the 81mm mortar can be deployed by the SL in that squad. Also, whoever suggested laser guided mortars, well that just defeats the purpose of adding in player used mortars. Although with a good mortar team, and the new UAV system, it could make for a really bad time for the bad guys... Which is why it would probably be good to add some sort of 60mm mortar system for insurgents

2009-09-23, 07:17	#145
Bringerof_D Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,076 Canada Location: Vancouver	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar it would be so simple, do it exactly as FH2 has it, but create add to it the deviation system only instead of measuring movement to determine the increase it is based on distance, maximum accuracy at the shortest range would be within 4-6 metres of your target beyond that and your inaccuracy increases

2009-09-24, 14:32	#146
PlasmaSoldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 60 Sweden	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar At last a mortar in-game :P
PlasmaSoldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 60 Sweden

2009-09-24, 19:50	#147
McBumLuv Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,506 Canada Location: St. Catharines, ON	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar Definitely the only way to do it would have to be like in reality. The mortar team can get mearusing equippement and reference sticks, and they should be forced to use trigonometry to calculate the angle at which to fire it in order to land a hit.

2009-09-24, 20:46	#149
UKrealplayER666 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 530 United Kingdom Location: Kent	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar Personaly i exeled at triginometry at school so i would quite happily do it that way but i like the easyer option, more player freindly

2009-09-25, 02:09	#150
McBumLuv Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,506 Canada Location: St. Catharines, ON	Re: [Weapon] M252 81mm Mortar Ye, was just gonna mention Jonny that the introduction of Mortars would be another reason against having 3d markers on the screen. It's probably the main reason that they were removed for FH2. Wouldn't mind having a table though to consult, being brought up with the Q rose or something along those lines.