Dutch Breacher - Page 2

Nugiman · 2014-06-02, 03:11

I like the suppressor, unrealistic or not. It just gives that dutch breacher kit the special something. Everyone who plays the kit is glad about that fancy cool weapon!

AfterDune · 2014-06-02, 05:48

Thanks for the feedback. I feel a bit of brief history of the Dutch Breacher kit could be posted here, so you understand how this kit came to life:

For a long time, the Dutch faction focused on Afghanistan, as that was where most of our boys got sent to. During that time, the Breacher kit in PR was still called a Specialist - a do-it-all kind of kit as you well know.

The Dutch Specialist (in a way) was representing the KCT (commandos), but had the same kit layout as other Specialists. It was just carrying a KCT patch on the arms and held a HK416 rather than a C7.

The Dutch faction was started in 2008 or so (yes, it took that long). During the years, many things in PR got changed, as well as things in real life, hence we have a bit of a mix in certain areas. The Breacher kit being one of them, even though kit layout is the same as other factions.

Well, now you know the backstory and why he's carrying a HK416 that regular Dutch troops don't get. The weapon itself isn't overpowered in my opinion, but feels different and adds variety.

We'll take a look at the silencers though, and make changes if/where needed.

ElshanF · 2014-06-02, 07:10

In the maps where some factions have the silencers, the opposite faction should also have silencers too and it's equally balanced.

KaB · 2014-06-02, 08:37

Why not making the suppressor breakable ? Like in MGS since the 3rd.

(already posted this in Suggestions tho, and it didn't get the approval)

Ghostwolf · 2014-06-02, 08:38

Well, since the spotter class rifle of militia and taliban have a scope on it, why don't you put a silencer on the rifles of spotter class of all regular forces on all maps?

Would kind of make sense, since spotter&sniper should move quiet?

Psyrus · 2014-06-02, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaB

Why not making the suppressor breakable ? Like in MGS since the 3rd.

(already posted this in Suggestions tho, and it didn't get the approval)

Not possible in the engine as far as I know

KaB · 2014-06-02, 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-CON]Psyrus

Not possible in the engine as far as I know

I actually suggested we add a 2nd slot with the exact same weapon but without suppressor. Then when the suppressor's broken (fired too much with the weapon with suppressor), you can only fire with the weapon from the new slot that doesn't have any suppressor.

And you link the ammos of these two slots.

Truism · 2014-06-02, 10:12

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]AfterDune

Thanks for the feedback. I feel a bit of brief history of the Dutch Breacher kit could be posted here, so you understand how this kit came to life:

For a long time, the Dutch faction focused on Afghanistan, as that was where most of our boys got sent to. During that time, the Breacher kit in PR was still called a Specialist - a do-it-all kind of kit as you well know.

The Dutch Specialist (in a way) was representing the KCT (commandos), but had the same kit layout as other Specialists. It was just carrying a KCT patch on the arms and held a HK416 rather than a C7.

The Dutch faction was started in 2008 or so (yes, it took that long). During the years, many things in PR got changed, as well as things in real life, hence we have a bit of a mix in certain areas. The Breacher kit being one of them, even though kit layout is the same as other factions.

Well, now you know the backstory and why he's carrying a HK416 that regular Dutch troops don't get. The weapon itself isn't overpowered in my opinion, but feels different and adds variety.

We'll take a look at the silencers though, and make changes if/where needed.

I don't understand why the kit is retained out of Afghanistan, and all my original points remain extant. No other faction has an SF kit, and no one has had an SF kit since, like, 0.8. Dutch SF is not particularly big or renowned, and if there's any argument for Dutch to have SF, there's an argument for every faction to have SF.

I still don't understand why this kit is in the release version.

Pronck · 2014-06-02, 10:43

Because the Dutch are awesome, that is why. Stop complaining, start accepting the fact that it is there.

L4gi · 2014-06-02, 10:49

I wouldnt mind if all breachers had suppressors.

2014-06-02, 03:11	#11
Nugiman Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 345 Germany Location: Germany	Re: Dutch Breacher I like the suppressor, unrealistic or not. It just gives that dutch breacher kit the special something. Everyone who plays the kit is glad about that fancy cool weapon!
	Veni, Vidi, Pwnz0rz. - I came, I saw, I pwnd

2014-06-02, 05:48	#12
AfterDune Retired PR Developer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 17,029 Netherlands Blog Entries: 10	Re: Dutch Breacher Thanks for the feedback. I feel a bit of brief history of the Dutch Breacher kit could be posted here, so you understand how this kit came to life: For a long time, the Dutch faction focused on Afghanistan, as that was where most of our boys got sent to. During that time, the Breacher kit in PR was still called a Specialist - a do-it-all kind of kit as you well know. The Dutch Specialist (in a way) was representing the KCT (commandos), but had the same kit layout as other Specialists. It was just carrying a KCT patch on the arms and held a HK416 rather than a C7. The Dutch faction was started in 2008 or so (yes, it took that long). During the years, many things in PR got changed, as well as things in real life, hence we have a bit of a mix in certain areas. The Breacher kit being one of them, even though kit layout is the same as other factions. Well, now you know the backstory and why he's carrying a HK416 that regular Dutch troops don't get. The weapon itself isn't overpowered in my opinion, but feels different and adds variety. We'll take a look at the silencers though, and make changes if/where needed.

2014-06-02, 08:37	#14
KaB Retired PR Developer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 972 France Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dutch Breacher Why not making the suppressor breakable ? Like in MGS since the 3rd. (already posted this in Suggestions tho, and it didn't get the approval)

2014-06-02, 08:38	#15
Ghostwolf Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 158 Europe	Re: Dutch Breacher Well, since the spotter class rifle of militia and taliban have a scope on it, why don't you put a silencer on the rifles of spotter class of all regular forces on all maps? Would kind of make sense, since spotter&sniper should move quiet?
Ghostwolf Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 158 Europe

2014-06-02, 10:43	#19
Pronck Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,772 Netherlands Location: The Pub	Re: Dutch Breacher Because the Dutch are awesome, that is why. Stop complaining, start accepting the fact that it is there.
	*We are staying up!*

2014-06-02, 07:10	#13
ElshanF Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 353 United Kingdom Location: Scotland	In the maps where some factions have the silencers, the opposite faction should also have silencers too and it's equally balanced.

2014-06-02, 10:49	#20
L4gi Server Administrator (A-N) Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,093 Finland	I wouldnt mind if all breachers had suppressors.