Half-tracks are worse than any other vehicle off or on road

[axytho]

Originally Posted by InfantryGamer42

Thing is, you need to look they way both were used. M5 HT transported INF to point of contact, after that it was not rare for INF to leave M5 behand whit only driver, who would man HMG. From what I read, it was not even uncommon for driver to leave M5 behand and take Bazooka carried in vehicle to reinforce squad whit AT ability. Germans on other hand, whit there SdKfz 251 fought from APC itself.

Off road ability of HT was better compared to trucks, but it was not something more impressive. Point is, for SdKfz 251, DEVs would need to find way for hole crew to effectively engage enemy from inside of vehicle whit there weapons. On other hand, M5 seams right in big picture.

Yes ok, but that's no different from how a VAB or M113 gets used in PR. The VAB won't get stuck in a 1 m depression though. A 1m depression that the transport truck simply flies over.

[InfantryGamer42]

Originally Posted by axytho

Yes ok, but that's no different from how a VAB or M113 gets used in PR. The VAB won't get stuck in a 1 m depression though. A 1m depression that the transport truck simply flies over.

But there is no real difference (except M5 HT is worst from hole group bcs of its mobility). After starting deployment and there destruction it is not rare to see all VABs and M113s in the main, because many players do not know how to properly use them and would rather take transport helicopter or even walk.

[axytho]

Originally Posted by InfantryGamer42

But there is no real difference (except M5 HT is worst from hole group bcs of its mobility). After starting deployment and there destruction it is not rear to see all VABs and M113s in the main, because many players do not know how to properly use them and would rather take transport helicopter or even walk.

Yes, but at least the VAB's could have been used successfully. With the halftrack, you might as well give up from the start. People still take the halftracks because it gives off WW2 vibes and it's better than nothing. The VAB's on the other hand are legitimately valued and taken before the transport trucks (as they should be).

As someone who quite likes using assets that everyone thinks are terrible, even I have to concede the half-track is truly useless. (And realistically, it shouldn't be).

[rogdozz]

Can we get a statement from DEVs why this hasn't been adressed yet? As far as I can see the consensus here is that it should at least get more speed, or does anyone disagree?

[BRZbruh]

I just want to shoot the .50 360 degrees

[Grump/Gump.45]

Originally Posted by rogdozz

Can we get a statement from DEVs why this hasn't been adressed yet? As far as I can see the consensus here is that it should at least get more speed, or does anyone disagree?

Several things need to be changed in relation to damage hit box. The troop carrier back section of halftrack should give vehicle minimal damage from anti-tank strikes unless the hit lines up with engine block. Through and through the back should only harm the infantry.

Everything else is fine. It should be as it was in real life. The gun on the front requires tactics and a little bit of hope that they work to use.

[[R-DEV]Mats391]

Half-Tracks are on the list of getting quality of life updates and hopefully will be improved soon

[Grump/Gump.45]

Reminder, half tracks are to be used exactly as follows along with any other known or creative use you can find for it. There is 3 speeds, Full speed holding W or S, 50% half speed +/- 20% tapping W or S. No speed or slow roll releasing W or S. Drive in reverse using the map and/or looking out of the back.

1. Kit requests

2. ammo

3. moving with armor, in view of your armor.

4. covering sound of your armor tanks

5. providing extra silhouette and dust trails in the same vicinity as your tanks to distract.

6. Kit requests of for mobile smoke screen specific role for infantry attacks

7. Aim MG42 or .50 cal at height of a man into areas of cover and concealment, sweep and double sweep. As if you were spraying for bugs, humanoid sized bugs. WW2 maps are mostly level terrain and bushes enemy hides behind.

8. Infantry can hop in the back using it as a transport gun truck, even request kits in the back. Now more safer than ever from team killing by riding vehicles as I demonstrate in Challenger II video, especially if you use the proper speed techniques as driver of tapping W/S or riding techniques as hop on passenger

9. Infantry dismounts into 1 man hit per tank shell spread around the half track, either crazy in the open with micro terrain cover to cover or appropriate use of larger terrain features along side other assets

10. Always look at the asset list, build the formation as follows APC + Halftracks + Tanks + Jeeps + Logi repair/supplies + CAS + Anti-air vehicles + Trans? + Infantry + Super FOB HMG/AT/AA + in view of the flags + in view of each other = Invincibility with 1 tank hit per Area Artillery Attack or CAS bomb spread.

Same for super FOBs, anti-artillery and CAS bomb spread, 200 meter build capability each direction of FOB, spread it wide so you don't lose everything in one spot.

[[R-COM]ismaelassassin]

damn right! that´s how you use them

[Grump/Gump.45]

You can also use half tracks to hide in when over turned or even just laying in the back. Of either your own half track or the enemies waiting for one of them to use it.

Note that the German halftrack once destroyed the back cannot be jumped into for cover, the American half track can be jumped into back of still when destroyed.

Please make it so the German half track can be used to jump in the back when destroyed.

I love how the half tracks eat the grenades thrown at me, except for the ones that land in the back.

When we jump into the back, I always try to have the .50 cal/MG42 manned then a 3rd machine gun kit riding in the bed of the half track crouched to fire out of the side.

Like an armored Vietnam gun truck made out of regular transport truck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruJw_nnVeLU