[Weapon] Spike MR/LR [WIP] - Page 2

Rhino · 2013-07-20, 15:10

If used by the Brits only really as a better alternative place holder than the TOW Missile

gipakok · 2013-07-20, 16:04

Although won't this weapon be kinda unbalanced? The MR (Gil) has a range of 2.5km and the LR (Gomed) has a range of 4km. And theses are only the relatively shorter ranged versions of the SPIKE.

And congrats moszeus for becoming an R-DEV btw.

Moszeusz6Pl · 2013-07-20, 16:09

It won't have such long effective range in PR. Same as tanks can't kill from few kilometers.

splatters · 2013-07-20, 16:18

Just handled a Spike simulator a couple of months ago, even saw a couple of live ones being fired! Model looks spot on, waiting to see it textured.

Rhino · 2013-07-20, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by gipakok

Although won't this weapon be kinda unbalanced? The MR (Gil) has a range of 2.5km and the LR (Gomed) has a range of 4km. And theses are only the relatively shorter ranged versions of the SPIKE.

And congrats moszeus for becoming an R-DEV btw.

Many of the weapons in PR should have a much longer range than they do ingame, the problem is the view distance.... As such its max range will be the same most other AT weapons ingame, and that is as far as you can see the target

gipakok · 2013-07-20, 16:41

Also I really hope this will replace the MATADOR sooner rather than later, not only the ingame version of it is inaccurate but the matador is only used against light armor and breach walls

Glimmerman · 2013-07-20, 17:37

W00t, nice one guys !

[R-DEV]camo · 2013-07-21, 08:43

Looks epic, good job.

lucky.BOY · 2013-07-21, 09:34

Wow, this is quite something

Hope you wont mind a bit of feedback:

Now I understand you dont like welding stuff together, and it sure costs quite a bit of tris, but it saves UV space most of the time, and geometry is cheap compared to textures. So I think its better to have a 10k geomtry that uses like 70% UV space of a 7K geometry. Plus the model feels less like its a big mess

I know you guys overlap UVs to save space and make Z-fighting unnoticable, but that one is usable only to a extent.

Getting to the actual model, here is what I would do differently:

Weld these yellow boxes into the pink one?

Looking at what will be right in players face, these areas could use a bit more detail IMO (on that tube handle it depends on how it will be seen through deploy animation).

On this big cyllindrical thing, you can delete some of its polys, as they are fully covered by other geometry.

This gap is pointless. If you would move those faces closer together and weld them together, you would probably save a few tris, as well as loads of UV space.

Same with this gap here. This one is so obscured by other geometry that it took me while to get a good shot of it

Oh and one last thing, those circles on tube covers dont need that vertex in the middle

Other than that, an impressive peice of modelling, i must say. Have fun UVing it

Rhino · 2013-07-21, 09:47

Ye good points lucky, you guys should weld up pretty much everything you can, the end result will be miles better for it

2013-07-20, 15:10	#11
Rhino Retired PR Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 47,448 United Kingdom Location: Somerset - UK Blog Entries: 45	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR If used by the Brits only really as a better alternative place holder than the TOW Missile

2013-07-20, 16:04	#12
gipakok Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 265 Israel	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR Although won't this weapon be kinda unbalanced? The MR (Gil) has a range of 2.5km and the LR (Gomed) has a range of 4km. And theses are only the relatively shorter ranged versions of the SPIKE. And congrats moszeus for becoming an R-DEV btw.
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2013-07-20, 16:09	#13
Moszeusz6Pl Retired PR Developer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 936 Poland Location: Rzeszow	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR It won't have such long effective range in PR. Same as tanks can't kill from few kilometers.

2013-07-20, 16:18	#14
splatters Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 525 Finland Location: Helsinki	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR Just handled a Spike simulator a couple of months ago, even saw a couple of live ones being fired! Model looks spot on, waiting to see it textured.

2013-07-20, 16:41	#16
gipakok Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 265 Israel	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR Also I really hope this will replace the MATADOR sooner rather than later, not only the ingame version of it is inaccurate but the matador is only used against light armor and breach walls
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2013-07-20, 17:37	#17
Glimmerman Retired PR Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,228 Netherlands Location: Amsterdam	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR W00t, nice one guys !
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2013-07-21, 08:43	#18
[R-DEV]camo PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,087 Australia	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR Looks epic, good job.

2013-07-21, 09:34	#19
lucky.BOY Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,413 Czech Republic Location: Prague	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR Wow, this is quite something Hope you wont mind a bit of feedback: Now I understand you dont like welding stuff together, and it sure costs quite a bit of tris, but it saves UV space most of the time, and geometry is cheap compared to textures. So I think its better to have a 10k geomtry that uses like 70% UV space of a 7K geometry. Plus the model feels less like its a big mess I know you guys overlap UVs to save space and make Z-fighting unnoticable, but that one is usable only to a extent. Getting to the actual model, here is what I would do differently: Weld these yellow boxes into the pink one? Looking at what will be right in players face, these areas could use a bit more detail IMO (on that tube handle it depends on how it will be seen through deploy animation). On this big cyllindrical thing, you can delete some of its polys, as they are fully covered by other geometry. This gap is pointless. If you would move those faces closer together and weld them together, you would probably save a few tris, as well as loads of UV space. Same with this gap here. This one is so obscured by other geometry that it took me while to get a good shot of it Oh and one last thing, those circles on tube covers dont need that vertex in the middle Other than that, an impressive peice of modelling, i must say. Have fun UVing it

2013-07-21, 09:47	#20
Rhino Retired PR Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 47,448 United Kingdom Location: Somerset - UK Blog Entries: 45	Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR Ye good points lucky, you guys should weld up pretty much everything you can, the end result will be miles better for it