Remove Rifleman Ammo 'exploit?'

[sweedensniiperr]

This is my solution:
Ammo crate.
Kit crate - which is also used for fob building. Can't resupply ammo from it and can't request rifleman kit.

[[R-DEV]Mats391]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]K4on

that does work with the code, IIRC. could someone check that out?
otherwise Ill do tomorow.

That is doable as i said above, but comes with drawback that you cant see if a crate is full or empty.

Another option would be to make crates lose health every time you request a kit. That would simulate you using up some of the storage by taking the equipment. Sadly we cant modify the ammo storage directly, so doing it via HP would be only option.

[Gosu-Rizzle]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Mats391

That is doable as i said above, but comes with drawback that you cant see if a crate is full or empty.

Another option would be to make crates lose health every time you request a kit. That would simulate you using up some of the storage by taking the equipment. Sadly we cant modify the ammo storage directly, so doing it via HP would be only option.

The HP thing sounds perfect imo! Its the most intuitive (and realistic) and it makes logistics as important as it should be. And this way it would stll be possible to rearm your mortars, TOW, etc by requesting a rifleman kit when needed

[OriginalWarrior]

How about if you can remove the ability to request Rifleman kits from crates, but can still request it from APCs and supply depot.

[fatalsushi83]

I like this idea of requesting kits depleting the ammo box. Sounds like the most elegant solution and makes sense since you're basically taking equipment out of the box when requesting a kit.

Also, is it possible to fix that weird quirk that allows you to get more from an ammo bag when you're further away from it? If you sit directly on it, it'll disappear even before you can rearm a LAT but staying about a meter away works for some reason.

And one suggestion: Would it be possible to make it so that you have to hold the "use" key to get stuff from boxes and ammo bags? Sometimes in a confined area a rifleman will throw down a bag for the LAT guy only to have it depleted by some other guy who is standing nearby. And sometimes you want to swap kits at a crate but it explodes because it tries to automatically rearm your current kit before you request a new one. It could say "rearming" in the HUD when you hold the use key so that you're only sucking up ammo when you really need it.

[[R-CON]​Frontliner]

Originally Posted by fatalsushi83

Also, is it possible to fix that weird quirk that allows you to get more from an ammo bag when you're further away from it? If you sit directly on it, it'll disappear even before you can rearm a LAT but staying about a meter away works for some reason.

That's a myth. The ammo bag runs on a concrete amount of points which will be used to replenish every part of your equipment that has been used up, the points necessary for each slot in your kit are set to 100, evenly distributed among the magazines, grenades, etc. . If you use up your grenades, your LAT and your patch for example, you've used up way more than an ammo bag can replenish, in this case the only thing you're getting out of the ammo bag is 1 grenade unless you have one of the LATs that have 2 shots(LAW, RPG7):
175(amount of points in one ammo bag)/3(types of equipment that aren't full)=58 points per slot.

Grenades 100/2=50 per grenade
LAT 100/1(2)=100/50 per shot
Patch 100/1= 100 per patch

You can afford to throw 1 grenade and use 1 or 2 magazines depending on whether you have 7(G3) or 9(most other rifles) total.

[Geronimo]

Beeing able to request the rifleman kit from a crate is important for me. Sometimes one of my squadmates takes a LAT/HAT/AA to take out a nearby asset and I go with him with a rifleman for a second shot, leaving my old kit behind.

Originally Posted by Frontliner

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The ammobag only has 110 "points", not 175. They changed that in one of the last patches.

[doougl4s]

There are other utilities for ammo pouch of rifleman kit. You can not provide ammunition for the assets (mortars, HMG, TOW, etc.) if it is removed. Provide ammunition for a stealth squad will be impossible, since it will need a helicopter or logistics truck for it. I am against removing the ammo pouch.

[K4on]

1. Now, would you agree to remove this glitch by making the rifleman kit not requestable anymore?
- if not, do you have an alternative solution for the described issue above?

BUMP, need more fancy ideas and input

[Tankbuster28000]

The only issue I see when removing rifleman kit is when you are in mortars.
So if the supply crate would automatically resupply mortars/TOW/AA, I would not mind seeing them removed.