[Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] - Page 2

Z-trooper · 2010-06-07, 21:28

Depth is hard to achieve. Obviously you can make the groove deeper on the high poly, or you can increase the softness of the high poly - giving it a larger gradient to look deeper over. An AO map baked from the high poly helps a lot too.

#2. I suspect that it is the compression of the normal map format. I assume you bake to .tga? try removing the checker in the box "compress".

munky91 · 2010-06-07, 21:35

Hm, compress was unchecked. And 16 bit vs 24 bit didn't seem to do anything. Only other options are alpha-split and pre-multiplied alpha, but those probably don't have anything to do with it.
Exporting as bmp gets rid of the noise, I could just do that. BMP has no compression right?

Z-trooper · 2010-06-07, 21:41

Correct. Sounds weird though. Will research it, as I remember having this issue some time ago - and now I've obviously forgotten what it was about.

EDIT: seems it was a 16bit issue. I was stupid back then and forgot to change back the setting from 16bit. These days I have it set on 32 bit just to make sure hehe

munky91 · 2010-06-13, 18:53

Work continues, got the proportions better, adding more details. Got a job working at a restaurant this week too, I feel like this is the busiest summer I've ever had. New pic in first post.

AquaticPenguin · 2010-06-13, 22:01

For normal mapping I found this was quite useful. AO map will probably get the depth that the normal map can't achieve. Alternatively texturing some highlights in places might work.

Just curious, in bf2 am I right in thinking normal maps are only used when textures are set max? Does this mean it's best to use a mixture of smoothing groups + normal maps for details, since on lower settings a fully smoothed model + normal map would produce artifacts.

Anyway /derail

EDIT: actually I forgot to mention - Bloody nice model so far, keep up the good work

andy1123 · 2010-06-14, 09:16

nice one

Gore · 2010-06-14, 13:18

oh yeah baby, scania rocks.

pleym · 2010-07-12, 20:14

Any progress here munky91? "long time no see"

munky91 · 2010-07-12, 22:10

Not recently, need to get in the modeling groove. I need to make a schedule to help get myself motivated before the summer flies right by me.

Zulnex · 2010-07-13, 02:27

Very nice work.

Keep it up.

2010-06-07, 21:28	#11
Z-trooper Retired PR Developer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,108 Denmark Location: (0,0,0) Blog Entries: 13	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Depth is hard to achieve. Obviously you can make the groove deeper on the high poly, or you can increase the softness of the high poly - giving it a larger gradient to look deeper over. An AO map baked from the high poly helps a lot too. #2. I suspect that it is the compression of the normal map format. I assume you bake to .tga? try removing the checker in the box "compress".
	"Without geometry, life is pointless"

2010-06-07, 21:35	#12
munky91 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 69 United States of America	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Hm, compress was unchecked. And 16 bit vs 24 bit didn't seem to do anything. Only other options are alpha-split and pre-multiplied alpha, but those probably don't have anything to do with it. Exporting as bmp gets rid of the noise, I could just do that. BMP has no compression right?

2010-06-07, 21:41	#13
Z-trooper Retired PR Developer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,108 Denmark Location: (0,0,0) Blog Entries: 13	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Correct. Sounds weird though. Will research it, as I remember having this issue some time ago - and now I've obviously forgotten what it was about. EDIT: seems it was a 16bit issue. I was stupid back then and forgot to change back the setting from 16bit. These days I have it set on 32 bit just to make sure hehe
	"Without geometry, life is pointless"

2010-06-13, 18:53	#14
munky91 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 69 United States of America	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Work continues, got the proportions better, adding more details. Got a job working at a restaurant this week too, I feel like this is the busiest summer I've ever had. New pic in first post.

2010-06-13, 22:01	#15
AquaticPenguin Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 841 United Kingdom Location: Cambridge	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] For normal mapping I found this was quite useful. AO map will probably get the depth that the normal map can't achieve. Alternatively texturing some highlights in places might work. Just curious, in bf2 am I right in thinking normal maps are only used when textures are set max? Does this mean it's best to use a mixture of smoothing groups + normal maps for details, since on lower settings a fully smoothed model + normal map would produce artifacts. Anyway /derail EDIT: actually I forgot to mention - Bloody nice model so far, keep up the good work

2010-06-14, 09:16	#16
andy1123 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 28 Lebanon	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] nice one
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2010-06-14, 13:18	#17
Gore Retired PR Developer Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,456 Denmark Blog Entries: 2	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] oh yeah baby, scania rocks.

2010-07-12, 20:14	#18
pleym PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 659 Norway Location: Finnmark Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Any progress here munky91? "long time no see"
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2010-07-12, 22:10	#19
munky91 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 69 United States of America	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Not recently, need to get in the modeling groove. I need to make a schedule to help get myself motivated before the summer flies right by me.

2010-07-13, 02:27	#20
Zulnex Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 544 Canada Location: Windsor, Ontario	Re: [Vehicle] Scania P-93 [WIP] Very nice work. Keep it up.