AK-47 Accuracy... really?

[JKJudgeX]

Originally Posted by hiberNative

the second youtube link seems to have been removed.

i've never shot an ak47, but from what i've understood, ammo has a noticeable effect on grouping. i've also understood that there's a slight difference comparing top shelf ammunition in western stores through a gun you might own.

now visualize maltreated ak47s with old surplus or leftover ammunition from the afghan war ;P

Right, but it's a misconception that insurgents use all beat up, inferior weaponry... people are underestimating the number of post-cold-war era Soviet Bloc weapons STILL IN COSMOLINE. These are the guns that these guys are getting, still importing, still cracking open the wooden boxes from 20+ years ago...

And there are still weapons being manufactured and moved in, too, constantly... it's not that difficult to get good, new weapons on the cheap in the middle East/Africa/etc... borders are not patrolled well.

[Cpl.Small]

The AK 47 is inacurate when fired automatically... it's the same in PR, just single shot, with spacing between shots and you'll be fine

[AquaticPenguin]

Maybe in afghanistan where the taliban are more organised but I gather that in Iraq there is no obvious or competent chain of command and no thorough training.

[JKJudgeX]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]Cpl.Small

The AK 47 is inacurate when fired automatically... it's the same in PR, just single shot, with spacing between shots and you'll be fine

The spacing required between shots = far too great.

[Ace42]

Originally Posted by Cheditor

Well in real life AK-47s dont have that much range, they use a higher calibre round meaning the bullet doesnt go as far.

That is a gross oversimplification of the numerous different factors involving ballistic trajectory. By that argument, battleships using MASSIVE rounds would barely be able to hit people armed with thrown darts.

Muzzle-velocity, rifling, MOA, barrel-harmonics, etc all have significant effect on range. Now write "I must not conflate ballistic properties with the projectile's dynamics" x20 and promise not to do it again

[Cheditor]

The m-16 uses the 5.56 and this goes futher than the 7.(cant remember the last bit) round the AK-47 uses. But it is not as powerful. This is one reason the M468 is in production, has range and power.

[hiberNative]

impressive:

i want to rub these videos in the face of the fanboys that keep linking the picatinny comparison.

[BroCop]

*cough* Some of the insurgents had police training and previous war experience (yes an non-NATO soldier can actually survive firefights)

about the AK being a sniper....just reduce the range instead of overall accuracy. I mean by that logic then you should nerf the PKM as in undeployed mode you can sniper soldiers at 400 meters (done it yesterday in a standing position from the Archway rooftop firing accidentally at a friendly in a window in the big building south of it that has a underground complex beneath it, TKing him in the process)

[Cpl.Small]

Originally Posted by JKJudgeX

The spacing required between shots = far too great.

No it isn't, I'd like to se you fire the AK 47 with <1 second spacings for a whole magazine, see how your shoulder feels

[x.trEm*e]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

its fine, I was sniping snipers off of USMC main on fallujah the other day, 3 seconds settle time and its bang on the money.

seems that going after all your posts you are a freaking uber pro with unhuman powers and where life in PR-nights is too easy for you as you sit there smoking a cigar and drinking a beer and kill everyone now with closed eyes...

as you need more and more things that make a little PR soldiers life harder...

You are kinda my hero now you know
(sry for offtopic)