[Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS - Page 2

Redfox · 2009-11-22, 11:55

well its normal to have that version with grenadelauncher without sight. But Im curious why too. Just look here:

Btw Eri it would be really nice if we can use your model of m203

its really not late we can everytime edit anything and yours is much more better then our

Chuc · 2009-11-22, 12:32

Yknow you guys are allowed and are encouraged to use PR's M203 asset, to cut down on needlessly recreating assets we already have.

WilsonPL · 2009-11-22, 12:45

^ Is this version of VZ58 is in use by regular troops of Czech Army?

Hauteclocque · 2009-11-22, 12:46

Oh we know that Chuc.
The problem is that the model used by French Forces , Brazilian Forces and CAF forces is quite different to PR one, the model is shorter and when you put a normal M203 on the rifles used by that forces, it doesn't suit at all.

Nevermind, we (French Forces) will not use the M203 but the rifle grenades.( hum, animation Master required

)
We have the M203 short model because before we were not sure about our choices and we are OK to share it now with other factions.
But I see no problems if the other factions use PR M203, if it fits well with their weapons.

That will surely save some space.

Snork_SVK · 2009-11-22, 12:49

WilsonPL: No, but most soldiers in intenational missions upgrade their weapons or leave it to the master gunsmith...
but weapon in the picture is an example of someone improvements...

I would like if you used the grenade launcher ... looks better. I just do not know how many tri-counts...

I just edited all the optics and the collimator to have more segments and are more rounded ...
Colimator version now 4940 thri-counts
version whit optic 5048 tri-counts

2010-03-01, 19:49

Just found this (not digging out old toppics)
If it can be any help! (it's in French sorry, but there are many pictures of your weapon. Don't worry, it takes some time to open the link)
http://www.tirmaillyforum.com/mildot...720c911eb44482

Even British are using it ^^

BadGuy · 2010-03-18, 09:24

WHOA NOW that is not an SA58 at all.

The correct name would be SA Vz58.

Well if the Cezchens had the The modern SA58 variant civilian FAL then that's fine.

But the flash tip is expanding you from the barrel which every rifle firearm does not do, every rifle keeps the barrel and flash hider separate and are not fused.

1_Pablos_6 · 2010-03-21, 16:14

What is your point here, BadGuy ? Can you elaborate ? SA-58 is a perfectly correct designation for this weapon. "Vz." can be interpreted as "Mk" in english (than accordingly: SA Mk.58 ), so SA-58 is sufficient. Let's not nitpicking, please... Also who exactly are "the Cezchens" yow were referring to ?

BroCop · 2010-03-21, 16:43

Oh just ignore him...next thing we know he will use airsoft designations

*alternative version: This dude is a troll.

GeorgRavioli · 2010-04-09, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadGuy

WHOA NOW that is not an SA58 at all.

The correct name would be SA Vz58.

Well if the Cezchens had the The modern SA58 variant civilian FAL then that's fine.

But the flash tip is expanding you from the barrel which every rifle firearm does not do, every rifle keeps the barrel and flash hider separate and are not fused.

Wow... I just looked up SA58 on Google Images. IT'S AN AIRSOFT GUN. The common designation is SA 58 because its short for Samopal vzor 1958.

SA58 - Google Search

Lol CroCop he already is using Airsoft Designations.

2009-11-22, 11:55	#11
Redfox Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 106 Czech Republic Location: In hideout	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS well its normal to have that version with grenadelauncher without sight. But Im curious why too. Just look here: Btw Eri it would be really nice if we can use your model of m203 its really not late we can everytime edit anything and yours is much more better then our

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2009-11-22, 12:32	#12
Chuc Retired PR Developer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,881 Australia Location: Sydney Blog Entries: 42	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS Yknow you guys are allowed and are encouraged to use PR's M203 asset, to cut down on needlessly recreating assets we already have.
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2009-11-22, 12:45	#13
WilsonPL Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 488	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS ^ Is this version of VZ58 is in use by regular troops of Czech Army?
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2009-11-22, 12:46	#14
Hauteclocque Retired PR Developer Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,268 France Location: Nancy, Alsace-Lorraine Blog Entries: 5	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS Oh we know that Chuc. The problem is that the model used by French Forces , Brazilian Forces and CAF forces is quite different to PR one, the model is shorter and when you put a normal M203 on the rifles used by that forces, it doesn't suit at all. Nevermind, we (French Forces) will not use the M203 but the rifle grenades.( hum, animation Master required ) We have the M203 short model because before we were not sure about our choices and we are OK to share it now with other factions. But I see no problems if the other factions use PR M203, if it fits well with their weapons. That will surely save some space.

2009-11-22, 12:49	#15
Snork_SVK Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 Slovakia Location: Humenné/Košice	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS WilsonPL: No, but most soldiers in intenational missions upgrade their weapons or leave it to the master gunsmith... but weapon in the picture is an example of someone improvements... I would like if you used the grenade launcher ... looks better. I just do not know how many tri-counts... I just edited all the optics and the collimator to have more segments and are more rounded ... Colimator version now 4940 thri-counts version whit optic 5048 tri-counts

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2010-03-01, 19:49	#16
162eRI Guest Posts: n/a	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS Just found this (not digging out old toppics) If it can be any help! (it's in French sorry, but there are many pictures of your weapon. Don't worry, it takes some time to open the link) http://www.tirmaillyforum.com/mildot...720c911eb44482 Even British are using it ^^
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2010-03-18, 09:24	#17
BadGuy Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 United States of America	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS WHOA NOW that is not an SA58 at all. The correct name would be SA Vz58. Well if the Cezchens had the The modern SA58 variant civilian FAL then that's fine. But the flash tip is expanding you from the barrel which every rifle firearm does not do, every rifle keeps the barrel and flash hider separate and are not fused.

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2010-03-21, 16:14	#18
1_Pablos_6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Czech Republic	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS What is your point here, BadGuy ? Can you elaborate ? SA-58 is a perfectly correct designation for this weapon. "Vz." can be interpreted as "Mk" in english (than accordingly: SA Mk.58 ), so SA-58 is sufficient. Let's not nitpicking, please... Also who exactly are "the Cezchens" yow were referring to ?
1_Pablos_6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Czech Republic

2010-03-21, 16:43	#19
BroCop Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,152 Croatia	Re: [Weapon] SA-58 FINAL, ALL VERSIONS Oh just ignore him...next thing we know he will use airsoft designations *alternative version: This dude is a troll.
BroCop Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,152 Croatia