2015-04-05, 13:47 | #21 |
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Re: Automatic Rifles OP
We will not go back to the prone only for deployed ARs. We had that in the past and it simply makes them useless.
Yes, standing in the open w/o anything to deploy on is unrealistic. However killing someone that does that is a rather easy task. In my opinion the ARs are in a decent place right now. If you are having trouble being pinned down, get a bigger gun to help |
2015-04-05, 16:43 | #22 |
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Re: Automatic Rifles OP
I like LMG's MMG's in their current state. Granted I do use them more than any other kit but they are less accurate than their real life counter parts already. I don't see them needing balance atm but if they do I would only change deploy speed pr reload speed to make them talk longer. But that is only if they needed changing I feel they are fine atm, remember they are the largest causality producing weapon for infantries.
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2015-04-25, 19:42 | #23 | |
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I think the main problem with the AR is that the machine guns were made "too real" for Project Reality. This is how they are IRL, they aren't wild inaccurate rifles with recoil over your head, at least ones like the M240. The Sniper rifles and the DM rifles have less "Reality" in how they function in PR. The AR kits would only need really a long deploy time, and a freakishly long eye to sight speed. Just to do something, and maintain the reality of how it shoots. | |
2015-04-26, 03:16 | #24 | |
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2015-05-03, 20:47 | #25 |
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Re: Automatic Rifles OP
Can't we add overheating MG's for AR's (just like on vehicles) and make them useless after continuous fire for 30 secs or so. This would be realistic, since in RL some squads carry extra barrels for MG's precisely for that and the overheat time could simulate the barrel being changed. If i remember correctly in vbf2 the inf AR could overheat but after a lot of fire.
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2015-05-04, 11:16 | #26 |
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Re: Automatic Rifles OP
I found out recently that if you fire the M249 or MG3 excessively enough, it will overheat and you won't be able to fire/reload it. You have to fire a LOT of rounds (roughly 400-500) without a break, but it's possible. I haven't tried for the FN-MAG series, but I assume it would take quite a bit longer since its rate of fire is lower.
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2015-05-04, 11:35 | #27 | |
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2015-06-06, 10:53 | #28 | |
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In PR the fear to die is not present as it is in real life (obviously). This fact alone makes "natural" suppression (for the lack of a better term) a lot less effective than it should be. The other problem is that in PR, you can fire at your opponent whilst only exposing a sliver of yourself. The age old problems of "firing out of your eyes". So even when someone is supposed to be naturally suppressed, it is still possible for him to aim out of the window without the MG gunner being able to punish him as would happen in real life and sometimes even being able to kill the MG gunner. To compensate for these factors which make suppressive fire much less effective than it should be, a mechanic like a blurry screen or slightly less accuracy whilst under fire are necessary to keep combat realistic. | |
2015-06-06, 17:01 | #29 | |
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2015-07-16, 05:01 | #30 |
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Re: Automatic Rifles OP
This is where the COD myths come out, people believe that MGs and ARs are wildly inaccurate bullet hoses. The standard when I was a machine gunner in the army was first round hits with the c6 SF/c2 combo at 1600m, even with a bare naked c6 first burst hits off a bipod out to 800-1000m were not overly difficult. Then you have the c9(m249) which is just as if not more accurate than a c7 rifle.
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