v1.6.3 Oneshot Garand

[PBAsydney]

Semis should probably do 80-90% damage, enough damage to disable sprint and give black screen, and inevitably bleed out, but giving the target just enough time to patch and then find a medic if he wins the firefight, similar to a marksman bodyshot in modern PR.

The MP40 and STG44 need to be able to win a CBQ fight against the Garand somehow.

Originally Posted by robert357

Not to mention that only sniper rifle in US would one shot someone, where on Germany side it would be half of the team with bolt action riffles as a standard.

I cannot imagine a single scenario in the current meta where I would choose a K98 over a G41 or Garand.
In fact the only gun I would choose over G41/Garand is the FG42, which IMO should not be 1hk either.

[mebel]

Originally Posted by robert357

US vs Germany has been always a issue in many games due to not "balanced" weapons (semi-auto vs bolt action rifles) and tbh I also don't like changing M1 and G43 to 2 shot kill. Yes, on close combat scenario semi-auto is always better but on long range both of them are almost equal. Just give more automatic weapons in general like it was in beta. Yes, it's less realistic but more balanced due to having more submachine weapons for close combat.

This. Kinda good suggestion about giving more automatic weapons - but even without it is good as it is now.

[VTRaptor]

So in your new meta superior g41 would become inferior to k98, right...

This change will absolutely ruin all fun and logic. Why use your brain and play smart when you can take a hit, hide and heal. With kar in my hands i was able to pull ~20 kills multiple times when facing enemies with garands by simply adjusting my playstyle. It's not modern warfare to just keep bangin mindlessly with your 30rd mag and 600+ rpm.

[Rabbit]

Imagine being so smooth brain you think the g41 because inferior in all aspects because of a slight damage nerf.

[InfantryGamer42]

Maybe introduce sweet spot mechanic for semiauto rifles? In close range, you would need 2-3 shots to kill person, while at medium range you would need 1?

[BRZbruh]

Originally Posted by InfantryGamer42

Maybe introduce sweet spot mechanic for semiauto rifles? In close range, you would need 2-3 shots to kill person, while at medium range you would need 1?

Why would anyone want that

[[R-CON]​Frontliner]

Originally Posted by InfantryGamer42

Maybe introduce sweet spot mechanic for semiauto rifles? In close range, you would need 2-3 shots to kill person, while at medium range you would need 1?

I know we can do simplistic damage drop off, but I have no Idea if that modifier can be above 1.

But even if that would be possible, I do not believe we can then drop off at long range again.

[InfantryGamer42]

Originally Posted by BRZbruh

Why would anyone want that

You want to make submachine guns and STG better in close range compared to semiauto rifles, while keeping semiauto rifles deadly compared to bolt action rifles at medium range. That is what I get most people want from semiauto rifles in game from this comments. Sweet spot mechanic would make it possible.

[Rabbit]

lol you guys, zwilling did this as part of his damage changes and the players spoke out against it. I swear this community has a short ass memory.

[VTRaptor]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

Imagine being so smooth brain you think the g41 because inferior in all aspects because of a slight damage nerf.

That "slight" damage nerf will DOUBLE the amount of hits to kill, time to kill and drastically drain small clip/mag. I'd much rather take K98 (unless on laggy server) over G41 after the nerf, but for the most time i am SL, so I'd be forced to play with it... And no, I would not pick MP40, because it's useless at ranges beyond 50m.


As for the zwilling. Not everyone was against, most people were for some adjustments, but it was just scrapped all together rapidly. I for one liked the power of G3, an actual battle rifle.