[Vegetation] Jungle Fever CONTINUED

[Wakain]

looks great, but I'm afraid it's going to be a laggy hell for low end computer users:S
I'm also wondering if there'll be any changes with the Ai handling forests(normally they snipe headshots through 200m dense foiliage...

[WeeGeez]

Originally Posted by H.sta

I can't wait to play on a jungle map like this, will be the best warfare PR has ever seen

It'll be a Re-inactment of Joint Operations haha, lil more realism and an endless supply of DPVs! Chinooks! & Apaches!

[GhostDance101]

Hey man Good start on the new trees . Firstly i like to agree with you that makeing good looking overgrowth with effective lods is a real nightmare... and on that note here's some feedback

I think you should try to sort out these floating leaves before you get to far...



These trees don't really look at all natural. firstly the trucks have nothing but strait lines Also the leaf planes are too flat and noticeable maybe try using more pollys?

[Salmonella]

Originally Posted by Wakain

looks great, but I'm afraid it's going to be a laggy hell for low end computer users:S

that is my main concern, beauty with performance, otherwise i'll be here making 15k polys trees

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]GhostDance101

I think you should try to sort out these floating leaves before you get to far...

agreed, but like I said before, i'm planing to make new textures, so I didn't spent time in UV mapping, just applied an automatic mapping im maya.

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]GhostDance101

These trees don't really look at all natural. firstly the trucks have nothing but strait lines Also the leaf planes are too flat and noticeable maybe try using more pollys?

No way of using more polys, to add one subvision on each branch i'll need 6 extras tris.
In the first tree you have 4 branches = 24 tris
24/72 = 33% more tris = 33% more lag
the same for the others

and believe me, the last video its barely playable on my system that could be called a "mid-low" one, 8800gt & AthlonX2 6400

[sylent/shooter]

F'n awesome guys. Can't wait to play them The shadow that it casts really adds a new feel to the game!!

[GhostDance101]

Originally Posted by Salmonella

No way of using more polys, to add one subvision on each branch i'll need 6 extras tris.
In the first tree you have 4 branches = 24 tris
24/72 = 33% more tris = 33% more lag
the same for the others

and believe me, the last video its barely playable on my system that could be called a "mid-low" one, 8800gt & AthlonX2 6400

Dude From my experience with the bf2 engine, when it comes to overgrowth, the one main thing above all others that kills performance is density of objects. Because as you move through them it has to fade between the main geometry to the lod. For each individual object which is more taxing than the normal lod system for statics where it just switches.

so if you want densely placed small trees with better performance you will need to export them in clusters maybe 10 or more in a group give them extra long trunks to sick deep into the ground so that way you wont have any problems on steep terrain. that should preform a lot better.

But the main geometry should have more polys!!! focus on getting the shape of the trees more natural and organic!!!

[Salmonella]

and if I convert them to clusters via .con files, as statics? i've done this before but for other purposes, and I noticed perforcance changes, not so much but for better...

[GhostDance101]

No not in the con file. Here's an example of what i mean.

[Salmonella]

I understood what you said on the first post, I was just wondering if "clustering" them via .con may give the same effect. Do you ever tried it?

Hey, how you make the lod projections, I mean how you convert the final tree into 2 planes?
You make it by textures baking or what?
I'm making this projections with "maketopofworldscreen" function of bf editor, but it doesn't give the best results due the lightning and AA settings.

[GhostDance101]

Here is a short vid hope it helps.