NATO HAT and insurgents

[Big Lebowski]

Originally Posted by justman2005

ive heard that the stinger HAT system is one of the easiest most userfriendly HAT systems in the world. anyways if soemone is stupid enough to request a HAT kit on basrah and then somehow manage to lose it to an insurgent then they deserve to get pumped a few times by there own AT rockets. all i can assume a brit on basrah would be doing with a HAT kit is sniping with it and thats laamee.

Imo its preatty lame to complain about a perfectly legit tactic... used in RL.

btw a Stinger is not a HAT.

[Ghost1800]

yes, THEY, the people who requested it, deserve to be pumped full of rounds from both teams on the field. The rest of the british team meanwhile is now frustrated beyond belief that someone created a 2 man squad with their buddy and just gave the insurgents a HAT and AA kit (and it has happened).

Short of sitting at airport and team killing people who take such kits you cannot prevent idiots from walking off with extremely expensive and extremely unnecessary equipment and giving it to your enemy. I think it would be better to remove these kits entirely from insurgency maps but if that's not possible I think it'd be better to not let insurgents be able to properly use the kit (they would still get an iron-sight weapon, smoke grenades, and field dressings).

[GR34]

I like to kill my team mates who have got the kit justbecause they are bumb

[Boommelonshot]

Originally Posted by google

I did a quick forum search and checked the allready suggested suggestions list, so please forgive my incompotence if it was allready suggested.

Anyway, on Al Basrah, sometimes a Brit foolishly decides to grab a HAT kit and go into battle only to have an insurgent steal it and use it to do a lot of damage. So, an idea popped in my head. Insurgents would most likely never recieve the proper training to use an SRAW. So, is it possible to make the NATO HAT kit unusable for the insurgents.

Also, I'm not sure how the Eryx and the SRAW function. But if you require specific training for each of them, perhaps the Eryx should be unusable to NATO factions and the SRAW unusable to the non-NATO factions.

I agree about the insurgents but im sure that NATO forces are trained to use and are familiarized with opfor weapons

[SGT.JOKER]

Easy way to stop the insurgents from getting HAT.
You see a guy on your team running around with the HAT (ALONE. Ive had a HAT crew in my squad, if you team the HAT guy up with an ammo guy it works well) teamkill him. Easy as that. Ima prolly be flamed for saying that but its apparently the only way to make sure the insurgents dont get it

[Darkpowder]

If the British faction are stupid enough to go into an insurgency with a specialist anti-armour weapon without adequate backup and they lose it they deserve to get spanked by it.

Keep it as it is becuase:
- encourages thought on kits for the scenario at hand
- encourages teamplay to protect important kits
- provides a nice side-mission to re-capture stolen brit kits from an emplaced insurgent position
- Might actually get the brit faction to ease up on the armour strolling into town without recon, specific orders, or any infantry backup.

As the RGG guys often say "Molotov"

The HAT-Insurgent Turret will continue against all badly thought out strategies (credit goes to bond for that)

[Ghost1800]

Originally Posted by Darkpowder

If the British faction are stupid enough to go into an insurgency with a specialist anti-armour weapon without adequate backup and they lose it they deserve to get spanked by it.

Unless you somehow get permission from the admins to TK everyone with a HAT kit, it is in no way 'the teams' fault. It is not the teams fault that one lone man and his buddy decided to either be idiots and grab a stinger and SRAW or even worse, decided to go traitor and purposely hand off the weapons to insurgents and then switch teams (I've seen several of both situations).

There is no point in these kits even existing on the maps, they serve no purpose for the team that has them. Insurgents should not be able to operate this equipment, if not because they don't have the training for it but because they don't have the supplies to keep using them like is seen in game.