[Vehicle] Mi-24V Hind - Page 4

guywithawrench · 2013-01-19, 22:00

Good to see the model didn't go to waste

very good work man keep it up!

karambaitos · 2013-01-20, 21:40

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

Remember like the 1st person model of a weapon, the cockpit is very close and constantly in the face of the player so you need to make the bits that are close to him and relevant, high detail and pretty so he can get fully immersed into the cockpit and feel like he/she is there.

If you have something looking really boxy, like that massive round screen you have, or something zfighting in their face the entire time they are flying like the buttons/gauges on the SU-25/A-10 etc, it just totally brakes the immersion and distracts the player from the game and experience.

You have a lot of polys to play with with a 1p model, so don't be afraid to make all the details you want on it

unrelated question, is welding needed in newer engines as well, or is it only in old ones like BF2, also when do you need to weld each verticie of a circle like the HSI in this picture and when is it not needed like the radar warning receiver im guessing on the top extruded panel

[R-DEV]Tim270 · 2013-01-31, 16:31

Zfighting still obviously happens a lot in modern engines. There are however some ways around it to a extent.

For example we can use code to pretty much eliminate z-fighting on 1p weapons, we cant do the same however for vehicles or 3p weapons/buildings/kits.

Welding is just good practice in a lot of situations also as it helps to optimize your uv space. For example, having loads of black shadows in your diffuse from the AO just shows that it is wasted space having intersection geometry there. Smaller details, not such a big deal.

Rhino · 2013-02-01, 07:52

Ye, what Tim said. Saw some really horrible, basic z-fighting errors in PS2 which where due to it not being welding and that even was on a 1p handheld weapon model...

Jafar Ironclad · 2013-02-12, 01:20

How are we doing here?

ddeo · 2013-02-12, 08:36

Hey.
From what I know Grober has paused work on Mi24 to concentrate on studies. I think he passed exams already, so I'm sure he will continue work on Hind soon.

Grober · 2013-02-12, 11:47

I already apssd exams so im cool again but im doing map Hind and F16 texture so i realy devide my time on those projects :P and last days i was working on map

[R-DEV]Ason · 2013-02-12, 13:41

Isn't this also the type which the russians used in Chechnya 1995 ?
https://www.google.se/search?hl=en&q...OaSL4AS3zYHoCQ

Would be awesome in PR!

Trek762 · 2013-02-20, 16:40

I talked to OPK guy. He says PR is allowed to use the Mi-24 model from their mod.

So? Maybe we could use the OPK model for now? I don't think that the whole (model, UV's, textures, code etc.) Mi-24 from Grober is gonna be finished... in nearest future.

ddeo · 2013-02-20, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trek762

I talked to OPK guy. He says PR is allowed to use the Mi-24 model from their mod.

So? Maybe we could use the OPK model for now? I don't think that the whole (model, UV's, textures, code etc.) Mi-24 from Grober is gonna be finished... in nearest future.

Sounds good. Can you contact me privately? I've tried to contact you for few months already, I've send you several private messages on IM client and PR forums.

2013-01-19, 22:00	#31
guywithawrench Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 16 Canada	Re: Mi-24V Hind Good to see the model didn't go to waste very good work man keep it up!
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2013-01-31, 16:31	#33
[R-DEV]Tim270 PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,144 United Kingdom Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mi-24V Hind Zfighting still obviously happens a lot in modern engines. There are however some ways around it to a extent. For example we can use code to pretty much eliminate z-fighting on 1p weapons, we cant do the same however for vehicles or 3p weapons/buildings/kits. Welding is just good practice in a lot of situations also as it helps to optimize your uv space. For example, having loads of black shadows in your diffuse from the AO just shows that it is wasted space having intersection geometry there. Smaller details, not such a big deal.

2013-02-01, 07:52	#34
Rhino Retired PR Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 47,448 United Kingdom Location: Somerset - UK Blog Entries: 45	Re: Mi-24V Hind Ye, what Tim said. Saw some really horrible, basic z-fighting errors in PS2 which where due to it not being welding and that even was on a 1p handheld weapon model...

2013-02-12, 01:20	#35
Jafar Ironclad Retired PR Developer Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,167 United States of America Blog Entries: 6	Re: Mi-24V Hind How are we doing here?

2013-02-12, 08:36	#36
ddeo Retired PR Developer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 785 Poland	Re: [Vehicle] Mi-24V Hind Hey. From what I know Grober has paused work on Mi24 to concentrate on studies. I think he passed exams already, so I'm sure he will continue work on Hind soon.

2013-02-12, 11:47	#37
Grober Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 489 Poland Location: Wrocław	Re: [Vehicle] Mi-24V Hind I already apssd exams so im cool again but im doing map Hind and F16 texture so i realy devide my time on those projects :P and last days i was working on map

2013-02-12, 13:41	#38
[R-DEV]Ason PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,736 Hungary	Re: [Vehicle] Mi-24V Hind Isn't this also the type which the russians used in Chechnya 1995 ? https://www.google.se/search?hl=en&q...OaSL4AS3zYHoCQ Would be awesome in PR!

2013-02-20, 16:40	#39
Trek762 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 42 Poland Location: Wrońsko, near Wieluń	Re: [Vehicle] Mi-24V Hind I talked to OPK guy. He says PR is allowed to use the Mi-24 model from their mod. So? Maybe we could use the OPK model for now? I don't think that the whole (model, UV's, textures, code etc.) Mi-24 from Grober is gonna be finished... in nearest future.