[Gameplay] AA and flares - Page 4

Farks · 2007-12-28, 20:13

This is just... Wow. Ever since BF2 was released, I've been dreaming about the day when AA finally is given the power it should have.

Two questions:
1. Will the AAVs have seperated driver and gunner positions?
2. Have the AAA gone through any changes/improvements?

CAS_117 · 2007-12-28, 20:16

The damage missiles do is random. Well not random, but it depends on the closure rate. 1 will usually heavily damage, destroy, or set on fire what it hits. 2 is a bullet in the head. We can get much closer to reality as far as handling goes.

Jedimushroom · 2007-12-28, 22:29

I am wondering how the eurofighter will be balanced against the other aircraft, it isn't a whole lot better but it is quite a bit more advanced and has a much better turn rate than say the J-10.

markonymous · 2007-12-29, 00:21

im just annoyed that the DEVs talk about balance everywhere but when it comes to planes they dont give a rats ass. Idk how theyre gonna make an aproximation to the apaches ability to destroy almost every single piece of armour including AA vehicles in kashan desert within 30 sec. From 7 kms away...

Farks · 2007-12-29, 01:06

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Originally Posted by markonymous

im just annoyed that the DEVs talk about balance everywhere but when it comes to planes they dont give a rats ass. Idk how theyre gonna make an aproximation to the apaches ability to destroy almost every single piece of armour including AA vehicles in kashan desert within 30 sec. From 7 kms away...

A desert is a open area, which is not a good place for an Apache if the enemy has AAVs. Even if you managed to disable the enemies SAMs (and that would just be temporary btw) they can still use their AAA against you.

I think the devs know what they are doing. Let's wait and see if they have something to say about it...

solodude23 · 2007-12-29, 01:39

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Originally Posted by markonymous

im just annoyed that the DEVs talk about balance everywhere but when it comes to planes they dont give a rats ass. Idk how theyre gonna make an aproximation to the apaches ability to destroy almost every single piece of armour including AA vehicles in kashan desert within 30 sec. From 7 kms away...

What a great attitude you have. You might wanna play .7 before judging with the word "ass" in your post.

Clypp · 2007-12-29, 07:43

We can lock onto the armed littlebirds now so Qwai becomes a fair fight now right?

CAS_117 · 2007-12-29, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Clypp

We can lock onto the armed littlebirds now so Qwai becomes a fair fight now right?

Well 1 littlebird with 14 hydras and 2 miniguns Vs a mobile air defense network? I think that as fas as air defense/ attack goes it needs to be coordinated by the commanders respectively. In PR the aircraft have never really had to rely on each other to survive, always just an arcadey button mashing.

http://www.geocities.com/d_elazar/USA/bekaa.pdf

Bekka valley is an example about how superior intelligence and tactics will prevail, regardless of platforms involved. I am growing tired of "oh well I have weapon XYZ, so I win." No, it should be "I have weapon X, my opponent has weapon Y, and now I will deploy in such a way that minimizes X's weaknesses and exploits Y's". So this whole mentality of building a massive wall of airdefenses or just charging into a SAM weapons free needs to be removed from PR.

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Originally Posted by Farks

This is just... Wow. Ever since BF2 was released, I've been dreaming about the day when AA finally is given the power it should have.

Well the door swings both ways IRL. As good as SAM's are, there are just as many AG weapons, most with longer range and are not targeting a maneuvering object, such as a SAM site.

MadTommy · 2007-12-29, 09:13

Quote:I love the idea of circling at high altitude in a safe part of the map... recieve an attack order and lazer spot..then flares popping all the way, coming in to attack and bugging out asap

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Originally Posted by Technoelite

Yeah u do that you run out of chaff and then a bloke on the ground with a stinger gets u thats if u are in a chopper, in a plane it gonna be mobile aa, especallly on the battle of quilling with all teh trees

So what you are saying is.. if i dont use my flares i'll have them when i need them?... i think you need to re-read how the flares & AA work or re-read my post. Either way you seem a little confussed.

MikeDude · 2007-12-29, 11:09

dude. isn't that the pilot can see where the missle is coming from in real?

2007-12-28, 22:29	#33
Jedimushroom Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,123 United Kingdom Location: London	I am wondering how the eurofighter will be balanced against the other aircraft, it isn't a whole lot better but it is quite a bit more advanced and has a much better turn rate than say the J-10.
	"God will strike him down when he checks his email and sees young Fighter has turd burgling tendancies. Could you imagine going to church knowing your son takes it up the wrong 'un?" - [R-Dev]Gaz on 'Fighter137'

2007-12-28, 20:13	#31
Farks Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,049 Scandinavia Location: Hallsberg	This is just... Wow. Ever since BF2 was released, I've been dreaming about the day when AA finally is given the power it should have. Two questions: 1. Will the AAVs have seperated driver and gunner positions? 2. Have the AAA gone through any changes/improvements?

2007-12-28, 20:16	#32
CAS_117 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,600 Tunisia	The damage missiles do is random. Well not random, but it depends on the closure rate. 1 will usually heavily damage, destroy, or set on fire what it hits. 2 is a bullet in the head. We can get much closer to reality as far as handling goes.

2007-12-29, 00:21	#34
markonymous Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,357 Sweden Location: Göteborg, Sweden	im just annoyed that the DEVs talk about balance everywhere but when it comes to planes they dont give a rats ass. Idk how theyre gonna make an aproximation to the apaches ability to destroy almost every single piece of armour including AA vehicles in kashan desert within 30 sec. From 7 kms away...

2007-12-29, 07:43	#37
Clypp Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,147 Canada Location: Ontario	We can lock onto the armed littlebirds now so Qwai becomes a fair fight now right?

2007-12-29, 11:09	#40
MikeDude Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 927 Netherlands Location: Holland, Utrecht.	dude. isn't that the pilot can see where the missle is coming from in real?