ISRAEL > LEBANON...OMGHAX

[Pence]

Originally Posted by Bob_Marley

IF the Isrealis take a severe beating, and fear that they might actually start losing, they'll probubly just break out the nukes and glass the aggressors. Thats why we'll never again see a major war against Isreal unless one of the nations that wants to take it down is absolutly convinced that they can blast Isreal of the face of the earth before they can launch.

Just send in Special Forces to capture the Israeli launch sites (Or Submarines), In case some people have not noticed, Israel is not a big country and that means a small ocupation area.

What do the Saudi's say on the matter?

Also, if Israel is conqured, the Persians might feel confident enough to push the Allied forces from Iraq, we just do not know.

[Sacred]

IF the Isrealis take a severe beating

It's simple. They wont. Period.

[BlakeJr]

Originally Posted by Sacred

It's simple. They wont. Period.

Just like in 1967 they were pushed to the brink of destruction? I assume that was not taking a beating either. They won that war I'm not saying they didn't but they took a beating then and if they decide to go over the border they will take another beating. They may still win mind you but a beating they will take.
What d oyou think the Arab world will do if the Israelis cross into Syria? Sit idly by and smoke dope?
Not with all the hatered flying around that region and worldwide...

And what's with all your oneliners? In fact, you sound so much like a certain banned person that I am beginning to wonder...

[Sacred]

Just like in 1967

Why are you comparing Israels Military to 1967, and why aren't you taking into account the support that they will recieve from the rest of the world?

What d oyou think the Arab world will do if the Israelis cross into Syria?

It will be WW3, with Iran and Syria both getting there asses kicked by the US, Israel, and European Forces.

And what's with all your oneliners?

I'm working and i dont need a paragraph to state a point that is obvious.

[Lugubrum]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]NikovK

If we commit forces, we'll be doing nothing short of defensive ground operations and aggressive air power, although I don't think the former could be deployed in time for another 6-Day War.

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Israel, a country set aside as a Jewish homeland by the United Nations, deserves security and survival if not as Europe's attonement for the Holocaust, then simply through virtue of brave Israeli's and their incredible transformation of their ancient homeland from useless desert to productive fields and factories.

I firmly beleive that friendly ethnic groups and shared culture matched with defensible borders make for secure and prosperous nations, secure internally and strong externally. We see the problem in Iraq between three feuding ethnic/religious groups who don't particularly want to be in the same country as eachother. Meanwhile external countries with ethnic ties and political goals inside of Iraq engage in their limited proxy wars for power inside.

Instead of trying for peace through disarmament, talks and good feelings, what Israel needs are barriers, aggressive force against suicide-bomber support infrastructure from firebrand imans to bombmaking labs, and limited actions to secure defensible terrain and dissuade outside aggression. Israel will always be a troubled nation so long as internal, hostile groups fester in unemployment and ethnic hatred. Such men blow themselves and a cafe up for a check delivered to their families, but such men civily deported to neighboring nations of their choice are powerless. Those who wish to live in peace with their neighbors can remain.

I'm no expert, but that's my two cents.

I don't think Israel deserves support from Europe because of things that happened to the jews in WWII. I really fail to see why Europe should stand behind Israel. I believe Israel shouldn't even be created in the first place but that is a whole other discussion.

I just watched the news and saw how large parts of the Libanan infrastructure was destroyed by Israel and more than 50 Libanan people where killed, among them civilians and kids and more than hundred of wounded. Israel is hitting by this way also lots of civilians by the bombings in Beiroet on buildings, roads and airfields. And I keep wondering why so many people hate Israel.

I don't think this will be WWIII but who knows. Anything can happen in this world.

[Pence]

Originally Posted by Lugubrum

I don't think Israel deserves support from Europe because of things that happened to the jews in WWII. I really fail to see why Europe should stand behind Israel. I believe Israel shouldn't even be created in the first place but that is a whole other discussion.

Wasnt Israel built off of the BMT?


Are you trying to say, just because the Nazi German/Austro-Hungarian/Czch/Italian/Romanian's did to Jews in the 1930s-1940s justifies not helping the Jews in 2006??

[Sacred]

Lugubrum = Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ?

[Lugubrum]

Originally Posted by Sacred

Lugubrum = Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ?

Pence, what I meant to say is that Europe should not always have to stand automatically behind Israel because we are supposed to feel guilty for things that happened in WWII. But like I said that is a whole other discussion.

[ROCKETt]

Originally Posted by BlakeJr

What d oyou think the Arab world will do if the Israelis cross into Syria? Sit idly by and smoke dope?

they just might do that

[NikovK]

There's also the whole "Its the most Westernized nation in the region" schtick.