M-16 Accuracy - Page 5

Cpt. Trips · 2009-05-14, 16:00

Can you put a source on that? From everything i've ever read about ballistics I thought that bullets climb after they leave the barrel and fall back to the point of aim at their zero'd range.

gazzthompson · 2009-05-14, 16:13

yeah, it dosnt fall then rise, then faill again.

it rises then falls.

Tonnie · 2009-05-14, 16:31

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Originally Posted by gazzthompson

yeah, it dosnt fall then rise, then faill again.

it rises then falls.

When i was going thro both Basic Training and Inital Training we were tought that it falls then rises then falls again, if anyone can get there hands onto a f88 styer training pam you will see its in there

gazzthompson · 2009-05-14, 16:38

how is that even possible?

heres two more examples, low velocity rounds show it more . plus i couldnt find a 5.56 one.

purely scientifically speaking (with my high school level education) i can't see how its possible for it to fall , rise then fall again. mainly the first part of it falling then rising.

Alex6714 · 2009-05-14, 16:45

I think maybe he means that for a short period the bullet is below the sight (while it rises) because the barrel is below, then it rises above it, then comes down.

For example your graph. 0-60 yards its below the sight line, 60 - 100 its above and 100 + its below again.

gazzthompson · 2009-05-14, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Alex6714

I think maybe he means that for a short period the bullet is below the sight (while it rises) because the barrel is below, then it rises above it, then comes down.

For example your graph. 0-60 yards its below the sight line, 60 - 100 its above and 100 + its below again.

yes, thats what im saying. but he is saying it falls then rises. like in his image:

myles · 2009-05-14, 17:08

The m16 has way too much recoil with burst on its so stupid

teukka · 2009-05-14, 17:35

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Originally Posted by myles

The m16 has way too much recoil with burst on its so stupid

You can counter that by pulling your mouse backwards when firing a burst.

Cpt. Trips · 2009-05-14, 17:54

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Originally Posted by gazzthompson

yes, thats what im saying. but he is saying it falls then rises. like in his image:

[*snip*]

I think the diagram was probably based on that misunderstanding though, gazz.
I thought that might've been what he meant. It's the only really rational compromise unless Australian bullets have some funky aerodynamics.

$kelet0r · 2009-05-14, 18:01

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Originally Posted by [R-CON]tonnie15

This image is priceless!

For the proper explanation see the image below:

2009-05-14, 16:00	#41
Cpt. Trips Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 314 United Kingdom Location: London	Re: M-16 Accuracy Can you put a source on that? From everything i've ever read about ballistics I thought that bullets climb after they leave the barrel and fall back to the point of aim at their zero'd range.

2009-05-14, 16:13	#42
gazzthompson Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,000 United Kingdom Location: norfolk	Re: M-16 Accuracy yeah, it dosnt fall then rise, then faill again. it rises then falls.
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2009-05-14, 16:38	#44
gazzthompson Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,000 United Kingdom Location: norfolk	Re: M-16 Accuracy how is that even possible? heres two more examples, low velocity rounds show it more . plus i couldnt find a 5.56 one. purely scientifically speaking (with my high school level education) i can't see how its possible for it to fall , rise then fall again. mainly the first part of it falling then rising.
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2009-05-14, 16:45	#45
Alex6714 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,896 United Kingdom	Re: M-16 Accuracy I think maybe he means that for a short period the bullet is below the sight (while it rises) because the barrel is below, then it rises above it, then comes down. For example your graph. 0-60 yards its below the sight line, 60 - 100 its above and 100 + its below again.
Alex6714 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,896 United Kingdom

2009-05-14, 17:08	#47
myles Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,579 Ireland Location: dublin	Re: M-16 Accuracy The m16 has way too much recoil with burst on its so stupid