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2009-05-20, 03:15 | #41 | |
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Re: AK-47 Accuracy... really?
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[QUOTE] when you insert a new magazine after your old one was completely empty, also in REAL LIFE you dont have to slap the forward assist on the M16 after inserting a new magazine Quote:
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2009-05-20, 04:21 | #44 |
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Re: AK-47 Accuracy... really?
Here's a related question: does anyone even use the AK47 in-game? Whenever I play Chechens, Taliban or Insurgents everyone is using either AK74U or just the regular sights/scoped AK74 anyway.
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2009-05-20, 04:23 | #45 |
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Re: AK-47 Accuracy... really?
As chech I like teh ak47 so I get an RKG, 2 dudes with RKGs and a supporting RPG can do some serious damage to armour.
Not really a fan of the ak47 (or the 74) as INS atm, since the shotgun and AKsu are both better in CQB and have RKGs. But its a fun gun, and I prefer teh 47 to the 74 for the higher calibre. |
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2009-05-20, 05:24 | #46 |
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2009-05-20, 10:20 | #47 | |
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5.56x45 NATO has muzzle energy about 1,8 kJ and speed about 936-1000 m/s, depending on ammo type (bullet weight). Typical bullet weight is 3.56, with a heavier variant 3,95 g. The AK's 7.62x39 has muzzle energy of about 1,9-2,05 kJ and muzzle speed of about 641-701 m/s, depending on ammo type (bullet weight) and make. Typical bullet weight is about 7,9 g. Modern Firearms - Ammunition - Rifle and machinegun ammunition ballistics 5.56x45mm NATO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 7.62x39mm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The slightly higher energy and 2 times heavier mass of the 7.62 bullet, compared to 5.56, and lower speed of 7.62x39 M43 makes it much more stable at longer ranges, because due to lower effect of air resistance, the bullet loses speed (and kinetic energy) much slower. As range increases, energy of 5.56 drops considerably compared to 7.62x39. AK 47 and even AK 74 is known to have very low accuracy when fired in full auto or even 3-round bursts due to its heavy and imbalanced gas bolt construction (although being a very sturdy and foolproof design). But when fired single shots, it's as accurate as the shooter, because gas bolt movement only starts when the bullet is at the tip of the barrel (so only recoil is the major problem). | |
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2009-05-20, 11:05 | #48 |
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Re: AK-47 Accuracy... really?
From a couple of pages ago, but you do realise how many experienced military advisers this mod has? The change for the next patch isn't based on someone watching an uninformed hollywood shoot em up and deciding that neither middle eastern combatants, or their weaponry, have the capacity to shoot accurately.
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2009-05-20, 11:56 | #49 | ||
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@topic: finally there are ppl who know what they are talking about without wikipedia and youtube go and apply for PR DEV team as weapon and ammo pro Quote:
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2009-05-20, 13:34 | #50 | |
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Despite concerns about the accuracy of Wikipedia, it is still quite useful to find basic information about almost everything, especially in scientific and technical fields. But of course, it has to be taken with a grain of salt, compared to other reputable sources and verified, if possible. Most Wikipedia articles do cite sources, so it's not always a problem. Anyway, what I've learned is that PR is just a game with its own constraints, just like many others (America's Army, Battlefield games for ex.). You just can't model the real life that accurately and still have the game be fun to play etc. I think players can live with the fact that AK 47 shoots less accurately, especially if it's in an insurgent's hands -- you can easily imagine, that the insurgent wielding it is not well trained to use it. I can say from my humble real life experience, that only a fraction of people can accurately shoot from different weapons. It takes considerable amount of training to shoot accurately, especially in practical combat situations -- where you have to move quickly and quietly, hide etc. You just don't get that much accuracy in real life, as you do with high-precision point-and-click devices. If you want to see, how accurately does an average person shoot, go to a local practical shooting event. Not a high-grade one, the local one. You'll see that people will miss, shooting from a pistol even at almost point-blank distance (i.e. a couple of meters). You'll see them having their weapons fully unloaded and them staring at it without a clue, that it just needs to be reloaded. Because in real life it's not just CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-R-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK. | |
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