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2014-04-04, 11:47 | #71 | |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
As I said before, light green edges on a light green model is a bad idea as its hard to see the verts... Use Black edges in future...
Anyways you don't need all these verts here, you can easily get away with removing all/most of these without major UV distortion, depending on how your UV is setup ofc. Remember the overall colour of a surface is what's important, not small little errors here and there and as for the drivers hatch base poly, I don't think there can be anything worse than a black spot under it after removing it Same verts should be removed from the otherwise etc too. I think it would be better to go with the r/l screen: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6y0z4yy6w...AB%20UTAAS.png Quote:
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2014-04-04, 14:00 | #72 |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
if you ask me then I would remove the boxes and add a gunrack with some Diemaco's in them.
if its not a big hassle to do so. + a loading ramp that goes up and down with up and down arrow button would look very cool, dont know if its a good idea to have it? |
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Last edited by [R-DEV]Glimmerman; 2014-04-04 at 14:15..
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2014-04-04, 15:09 | #73 |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
I see no purpose to have it, would just add more networkables to the object, another draw call (or two more if you include the new 3p material for the interior) and it would require the 3p model to also have the interior.
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2014-04-04, 15:20 | #74 | |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
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2014-04-04, 15:40 | #75 |
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Scratch those then
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2014-04-09, 00:55 | #77 |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
Isn't any tutorial on them, but its pretty similar to other objects if you've ever done any others
col0 is decal/bullet col that projectiles hit. This col is normally made off of your LOD1 or LOD2 mesh and needs to basically have all your large components on it but not small details bullets are never going to hit like wires etc which why LOD1 or LOD2 is normally a base since they normally have those kinda details removed, are more optimized and generally only have the large stuff you need on a col. You also need to factor in different material elements, like if there is a face that requires a unique material like glass, metal, cloth or w/e on it, although you could optimize it, depending on the size of the face, how likley its going to be hit by a bullet and the impact that different material will have on gampelay or visuals will all depend on if you keep it or not. You also need to factor in having weaker materials on weak spots on your col mesh, even thou if there are no materials to put on them yet its still worth defining the area for possible future materials as for now you can easily set it up with the normal material in its place. But for a tank/APC, it should have different front, side and rear/top armour materials defined at the very least. col1 is the physics/vehicles col, which is what vehicles drive into or in the case of a vehicle, also controls how your vehicle behaves in the world, with being able to drive though gaps, when it hits a wall or another vehicle etc. This is the simplest col of all and in most cases, should be made from scratch or possibly from your final LOD, and basically needs to just have the very borders of your mesh. Materials here control what sounds/effects are played when the vehicle comes in contact with other vehicles, and why on some vehicles with a lot of glass material on them you hear glass smashing all the time when driving over the terrain etc Also for land vehicles with turrets, the barrel should NOT be on this col as it can cause really strange stuff col2 is your player col, which is what players walk on or in the case of vehicles, what they hit when a vehicle runs them over as well. This is another simple col although more details than col1 and should stay true to the basic shape of your vehicle where col1 doesn't need to so much but its very obvious if a player starts walking on thin air or inside the wall of a vehicle Materials on this also define what type of footsteps a player hears as well as grip values etc when it comes to things like stair mats. Zhi-9WA cols from col2 on the left to col0 on the right with mats displayed from this tut:https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18...ml#post1860206 And ye, best to look at other vehicle cols although many vehicles have really bad cols, tbh some of the vBF2 vehicles are the best to take refs from but some of them are really bad too |
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2014-04-12, 17:16 | #79 |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
Just gonna quickly type this down, in case you weren't aware(but I'm pretty sure you are ):
Indididual sub-objects need their own col mesh set. So for example in your export, the turret will be separate from the main mesh(as it needs to rotate), so that needs it's own col mesh( so the col can rotate too). Same thing for the barrel, a wheel, etc etc. So when making col meshes makes sure it fits your export scene in mind So for example for my work on the Norwegian Iveco LMV export I first setup the export scene, and then started making collision meshes for each sub-object. So for the main mesh(nor_jep_lmv), the turret, the wheels,... So yeah, my main advice is to first look into the export setup of all the objects, and then do work on collision meshes. That's how I work at least So instead of making col's for the wrecks I'd first setup the entire export scene in a nice hierarchy. Makes it easy to work I think. That said, I have 0% clue on how the col meshes need to be made for the track-wheels and the tracks themselves. |
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Last edited by [R-DEV]Mineral; 2014-04-12 at 17:21..
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2014-04-12, 17:48 | #80 |
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)
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cv90, cv9035nl, modelling, vehicle, wip |
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