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Old 2004-10-14, 16:46   #1
[tR]Greasy_Mullet
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One aspect that I think could be really well done would be Snipers/Recon class. Imagine having to spend some serious time setting up a shot. Now imagine hidden far removed from the action and relaying information on troop movements back to your team.

Here is how I would like to see it work. Since you can pair up into squads, give the sniper a two man squad. Call it the recon unit. Both players would benefit when they are close together for Sniping. On could act as a spotter and the other the shooter. The spotter would be able to give distances to the target that would relay into the scope of the shooter, perhaps even giving a bonus to accuracy.

For the shooter you could simulate the real effects a sniper would go through. Such as breathing. Anyone who has ever shot competitively knows that breathing is key to your shot. This would be an easy translation into the game. Simply have the scope figure 8 and then a breath meter to the side. As the shooter has been laying down, his breathing will steady. As it steadies, so does the rifle. Accuracy increases at the end of the breath and he holds it for a second or two before taking a new breath. During that time would be the most accurate shot.

Anyway this could be built on but it is a basic idea for improving this class and making it more team oriented. I would like to simulate trigger pull (squeeze) but I have no idea how to convert that over and make it work right without seriously sacrificing game play. The possibilities are endless. What do you guys think?
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Old 2004-10-15, 12:06   #2
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Thanks for your suggestion.
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Old 2004-10-15, 12:24   #3
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hmmm but doesnt a sniper work alone?

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Old 2004-10-15, 12:30   #4
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ArchEnemy]hmmm but doesnt a sniper work alone?
Of course not.
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Old 2004-10-15, 22:37   #5
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For the shooter you could simulate the real effects a sniper would go through. Such as breathing. Anyone who has ever shot competitively knows that breathing is key to your shot. This would be an easy translation into the game. Simply have the scope figure 8 and then a breath meter to the side. As the shooter has been laying down, his breathing will steady. As it steadies, so does the rifle. Accuracy increases at the end of the breath and he holds it for a second or two before taking a new breath. During that time would be the most accurate shot.

There could be a bar moving up and down simulating a breathing "pattern". More you move, the faster it goes. Would be similar to a kicker in a Madden football game. lol

Someone was telling me about a game (not sure which) that when you were under fire you had some sort of "panic" rating (similar to the breath one) as someone fired on you it helped simulate that you were under fire and could not return fire with good accuracy. Similar idea, not sure how fun/implementable either idea it is.
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Old 2004-10-15, 22:43   #6
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Well as prone your breathing bar would start high and come down slowly. Once it gets to the end of the bar it holds for 2-3 seconds. At that spot is the best shot you can take. After the 2-3 seconds is up, the bar goes back to the top. So it could be a lot like madden. But it should be slow and smooth.
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Old 2004-10-16, 05:51   #7
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There does not have to be a bar at all. Make the model move with a "breathing pattern" and then when you aim you could click and hold the right mouse button to simulate holding your breath.
When you do that the motion of the aimed view will stabilize to allow for that perfect shot.
If you hold your breath for too long the aimed view will start to weave again until you release the RMB for a few seconds to catch your breath.


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Old 2004-10-16, 05:55   #8
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There does not have to be a bar at all. Make the model move with a "breathing pattern" and then when you aim you could click and hold the right mouse button to simulate holding your breath.
When you do that the motion of the aimed view will stabilize to allow for that perfect shot.
If you hold your breath for too long the aimed view will start to weave again until you release the RMB for a few seconds to catch your breath.
Great Idea!!

I've been wanting that(or something similar) in a game for the longest time.
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Old 2004-10-16, 07:00   #9
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There does not have to be a bar at all. Make the model move with a "breathing pattern" and then when you aim you could click and hold the right mouse button to simulate holding your breath.
When you do that the motion of the aimed view will stabilize to allow for that perfect shot.
If you hold your breath for too long the aimed view will start to weave again until you release the RMB for a few seconds to catch your breath.
Great Idea!!

I've been wanting that(or something similar) in a game for the longest time.
Try Infiltration for Unreal Tournament. That's where I got "my" idea.
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Old 2004-10-17, 14:22   #10
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Cool, I'll DL infiltration thjis afternoon and give it a whirl. A few minutes left of DC final right now
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