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Old 2021-07-11, 06:00   #1
[R-CON]​LangMaster
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Question Vehicle Models Tips?

Hey there, i was thinking, i am a person that always needs to do something productive in the background and i recently got my self into blender, and not gonna lie i kinda quickly learned alot of stuff and managed to get some cool models from that, so after a while i've decided to try make something like a real life model of a vehicle possibly for a PR later on.

Since you wanna make something realistic as possible to the original real life model, i suppose you guys are gonna look for some kind of blue prints of the actual vehicle or do you just look at pictures of the vehicle and you slowly go from that ?

Also is there a possibility to extract the in game PR models ? so i could get a reference? because so far i made like a fictionary vehicles, this one bellow was meant for a game called Foxhole like a suggestion and i made a little cute model of a tank vehicle which took me like a week since i installed blender for a first time so i am pretty happy with that .

Since Foxhole also is taking inspiration from real WW2 vehicles i also put something together so you can see couple of vehicles inside this model.



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Old 2021-07-12, 06:37   #2
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It's hard to believe, you learnt and made a model with such complexity in one week.
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Old 2021-07-12, 15:31   #3
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That's great, but a problem is that there is no tools for Blender that would let you export your models into BF2 format at least that is what devs told me when I asked can I make models in Blender. This is what Rhino said to me: "I don't know of any tools to export directly from blender to BF2, but you could possibly model in blender then export to max, to then export to BF2, but that would be hard work and most likely create lots of errors."
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Old 2021-07-12, 16:07   #4
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That's great, but a problem is that there is no tools for Blender that would let you export your models into BF2 format at least that is what devs told me when I asked can I make models in Blender. This is what Rhino said to me: "I don't know of any tools to export directly from blender to BF2, but you could possibly model in blender then export to max, to then export to BF2, but that would be hard work and most likely create lots of errors."
A lot of the Polish models in game got created in Blender, then exported to 3ds and exported. And that was even before newer 3ds versions became available for exporting, so only .obj worked for passing models between the programs. I assume with more modern 3ds and Blender versions the workflow could be rather simple.

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Old 2021-07-12, 17:01   #5
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It's hard to believe, you learnt and made a model with such complexity in one week.
I think i have an artist blood in my self, i learn programs very quickly and the amount of stuff you can do with just youtube tutorials is insane, i have literally made that thing in a week which i was really proud of my self because i always kept my self on making pixel arts.

I am mostly proud of the middle wheels because everyone was like how the hell did i do that and it was actually a pretty simple idea from me that i am still a bit laughing about.

It's a bit sad that i cannot export it straight from blender but good to know, i have 3Ds max installed since i was working on navmeshes on coop maps, i will keep working on the model on blender since the 3Ds is a bit pain for me.

The worst thing is gonna be textures for me i think i got into that part where i can plan the uv and stuff but i just cannot get my head over it making all the textures.

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Old 2021-07-12, 18:02   #6
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Let it begin

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Old 2021-07-12, 18:17   #7
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A lot of the Polish models in game got created in Blender, then exported to 3ds and exported. And that was even before newer 3ds versions became available for exporting, so only .obj worked for passing models between the programs. I assume with more modern 3ds and Blender versions the workflow could be rather simple.
That is nice to know since from my experience Blender is much more easier to work in than 3ds.
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Old 2021-07-12, 18:47   #8
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Just so you know, you do not have to learn to export yourself either. While it isnt that hard, it is not unusual for the artist not exporting the model himself. Just develop the way you are most comfortable and efficient even it makes the exporter hate you

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Old 2021-07-12, 22:15   #9
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Also is there a possibility to extract the in game PR models ? so i could get a reference?
With Blender it would be a bit problematic, but there is also a program for observing BF2 Meshes
https://www.bytehazard.com/bfstuff/bfmeshview/
You will only need .bundledMesh files extracted from .zip archives to watch them.

As for model, i would reduce amount of faces on curvatures, normal map should compensate sharpness enough.

P.S. Does Foxhole focus on low details for vehicles? last time i was playing it (stopped when the heaviest vehicle was an APC), it was simple boxes )). Cool model though, is it highpoly?
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Old 2021-07-12, 23:10   #10
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With Blender it would be a bit problematic, but there is also a program for observing BF2 Meshes
https://www.bytehazard.com/bfstuff/bfmeshview/
You will only need .bundledMesh files extracted from .zip archives to watch them.

As for model, i would reduce amount of faces on curvatures, normal map should compensate sharpness enough.

P.S. Does Foxhole focus on low details for vehicles? last time i was playing it (stopped when the heaviest vehicle was an APC), it was simple boxes )). Cool model though, is it highpoly?
They focus on kinda semi high models i am not sure, since you can watch the model only from top they dont do much alot on bottom but they have a vehicles around 30k triangles usually same as this one.

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