Stamina-related accuracy

(HUN)Rud3bwoy · 2008-02-18, 17:47

I was wondering if it's realistic if the soldier's stamina is combined with his accuracy.
My idea is that if a soldier's stamina is below 30%, the weapon's deviation would be a bit higher, since it is harder to aim when you are out of breath, and your pulse is a bit higher than usual. When the stamina is red or at 0% (when you hear the player wheezing and breathing very hard) the deviation would be even higher when the stamina is below 30%.
I know that it is already implemented that after running it takes more time to minimize deviation, but my idea would simulate the effects of a longer sprint/jumping (idk if its codeable though).
So what do you guys think about this?

Jonny · 2008-02-18, 17:52

may just be possible if you are lucky.

what about setting .SpeedDevAddForward quite low compared to .SpeedDevMax, and .SpeedDevSub even lower? Would that cause the effects of .SpeedDevAddForward to be added continuously while moving or is it just added once?

Masaq · 2008-03-11, 16:44

A thought that's occured to me before - but is it possible to link up the stamina bar and accuracy/deviation?

The idea would be to have a sliding scale of accuracy (not with a massive difference between the two ends, but a noticeable one) tied to the stamina bar.

Someone runs, jumps and skips their way into battle and arrives puffed out, bar in the red : crap deviation, gets shot.

Someone takes their time, walks into battle and takes up a good position : good deviation, does the shooting.

In short it'd help reduce run n' gun tactics.

Anyone know if it's possible?

Mongolian_dude · 2008-03-11, 16:51

I like.
This would work nicely in tandem with AWFUL deviation (I mean you couldn't hit a guy 10m away with sighted M16 burst), for about 3 seconds.

...mongol...

Tef · 2008-03-11, 16:51

Yea that's always a nice realistic touch. I think you should add more vehicles to compensate though because for a good amount of the time you have to hough it all the way across the map...

Masaq · 2008-03-11, 16:53

It'd promote sensible use of the sprint, though. Personally even when hoofing it across the entire map, I try and keep at least a third of my stamina bar remaining so I can run like buggery if I stumble onto a firebase or similar.

Outlawz7 · 2008-03-11, 17:10

Suggested something similar in another thread 15 minutes ago <.<, I do like this, as I find utterly annoying how a support gunner carrying 30-50 Kg of equipment who just ran 300 m has better accuracy than the guy with 25 Kg backpack who checks his corners and only runs across open terrain.

$kelet0r · 2008-03-11, 17:17

If it can be done, I'm all for it .... especially if going prone has a major stamina penalty

Brummy · 2008-03-11, 19:03

I like.

Jonny · 2008-03-11, 19:19

I've seen nothing for it in the files, but, it could be done like that with the modifiers, you just need to calculate them correctly. It wouldn't actually be the sprint bar, but it would give the same effect. Assuming there is seperate things for sprinting and walking, ofcourse.

It does not look like there is though, so walking would be the same as running.

2008-02-18, 17:47	#1
(HUN)Rud3bwoy Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 677 Hungary Location: Ahol kúrt a farkú malac	Accuracy/Deviation and Stamina I was wondering if it's realistic if the soldier's stamina is combined with his accuracy. My idea is that if a soldier's stamina is below 30%, the weapon's deviation would be a bit higher, since it is harder to aim when you are out of breath, and your pulse is a bit higher than usual. When the stamina is red or at 0% (when you hear the player wheezing and breathing very hard) the deviation would be even higher when the stamina is below 30%. I know that it is already implemented that after running it takes more time to minimize deviation, but my idea would simulate the effects of a longer sprint/jumping (idk if its codeable though). So what do you guys think about this?

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2008-03-11, 16:44	#3
Masaq Retired PR Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,022 United Kingdom Location: UK Blog Entries: 5	Stamina-related accuracy A thought that's occured to me before - but is it possible to link up the stamina bar and accuracy/deviation? The idea would be to have a sliding scale of accuracy (not with a massive difference between the two ends, but a noticeable one) tied to the stamina bar. Someone runs, jumps and skips their way into battle and arrives puffed out, bar in the red : crap deviation, gets shot. Someone takes their time, walks into battle and takes up a good position : good deviation, does the shooting. In short it'd help reduce run n' gun tactics. Anyone know if it's possible?
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2008-03-11, 16:51	#4
Mongolian_dude Retired Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,072 Europe Location: London upon Europe	I like. This would work nicely in tandem with AWFUL deviation (I mean you couldn't hit a guy 10m away with sighted M16 burst), for about 3 seconds. ...mongol...
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2008-03-11, 16:53	#6
Masaq Retired PR Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,022 United Kingdom Location: UK Blog Entries: 5	It'd promote sensible use of the sprint, though. Personally even when hoofing it across the entire map, I try and keep at least a third of my stamina bar remaining so I can run like buggery if I stumble onto a firebase or similar.
	"That's how it starts, Mas, with that warm happy feeling inside. Pretty soon you're rocking in the corner, a full grown dog addict, wondering where your next St Bernand is coming from..." - IAJTHOMAS "Did they say what he's angry about?" asked Annette Mitchell, 77, of the district, stranded after seeing a double feature of "Piranha 3D" and "The Last Exorcism." - Washington Post

2008-02-18, 17:52	#2
Jonny Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,420 United Kingdom Location: Cambridge	may just be possible if you are lucky. what about setting .SpeedDevAddForward quite low compared to .SpeedDevMax, and .SpeedDevSub even lower? Would that cause the effects of .SpeedDevAddForward to be added continuously while moving or is it just added once?

2008-03-11, 16:51	#5
Tef Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 632 Location: Jamaica/ Canada	Yea that's always a nice realistic touch. I think you should add more vehicles to compensate though because for a good amount of the time you have to hough it all the way across the map...

2008-03-11, 17:10	#7
Outlawz7 Retired PR Developer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 17,149 Slovenia Blog Entries: 12	Suggested something similar in another thread 15 minutes ago <.<, I do like this, as I find utterly annoying how a support gunner carrying 30-50 Kg of equipment who just ran 300 m has better accuracy than the guy with 25 Kg backpack who checks his corners and only runs across open terrain.

2008-03-11, 17:17	#8
$kelet0r Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,418 Location: Dublin, Ireland	If it can be done, I'm all for it .... especially if going prone has a major stamina penalty

2008-03-11, 19:03	#9
Brummy Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,470 United Kingdom Location: Brumtown	I like.

2008-03-11, 19:19	#10
Jonny Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,420 United Kingdom Location: Cambridge	I've seen nothing for it in the files, but, it could be done like that with the modifiers, you just need to calculate them correctly. It wouldn't actually be the sprint bar, but it would give the same effect. Assuming there is seperate things for sprinting and walking, ofcourse. It does not look like there is though, so walking would be the same as running.