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2016-01-08, 22:08 | #1 |
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Civilians and emplacements
Today I played insurgency on Fallujah doing APC. The insurgent team was full of civilians. Every time I'd call out something for my gunner it'd be a civilian almost surely.
One thing I noticed today is that civilians get two things: shovels and the ability to build emplacements. Why? Seriously, the civilians can build an SPG and dig it, and you can't shoot them whilst they do so. So you look over for two seconds to help friendlies on the cache right beside you and the SPG is manned by that same civilian. As for placing emplacements, it is absolutely ridiculous. Two civilians were trying to pull a Bluedrake on us by taking out their phones and tried placing a roadblock on us but failed thankfully. I think it'd make sense to remove shove and emplacement building from civlians because it is really exploitable. |
Last edited by Fir3w411; 2016-01-12 at 20:04..
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2016-01-09, 00:10 | #2 | |
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Re: Civilians and emplacements
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Most servers agree that this is a lame exploit, a simple report should be enough to make those griefers to be kicked/banned. | |
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2016-01-11, 15:29 | #3 |
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2016-01-12, 18:22 | #4 |
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United States of America
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Re: Civilians and emplacements
I think it would be better if admins kicked those players rather than taking their building capabilities. Being able to build easily is an insurgent strength. Personally I haven't encountered these problems or noticed team mates doing them.
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2016-01-12, 20:11 | #5 |
Join Date: Mar 2014
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United States of America
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Re: Civilians and emplacements
How does it make any sense that a "civilian" would build an SPG that's meant to kill my vehicle and infantry right in my face and I can't shoot them?
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2016-01-13, 11:55 | #6 | |
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Re: Civilians and emplacements
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Easier would be to make the shovel an illegal weapon just like epipen/resusciate. This way ROE would just allow you to shoot them if they're building or trying to while maintaining the no kit/civilian shovel. | |
2016-01-14, 08:59 | #7 |
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Re: Civilians and emplacements
Why not just take it this way: Wait for him to get on the spg (it has 15 second fire delay anyways) and then kill him. If he is waiting for you to turn your back you get out and arrest the civilian.
Or you could just shoot the civilian shoveling the spg and be done with it. Yeah, it's not realistic but the penalty for shooting a civi seems low anyways. Most of the ins rounds I play nowadays I run around as a civi getting martyred like there's no tomorrow because people don't care about penalties. |
2016-01-14, 10:58 | #8 | |
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2016-01-14, 14:19 | #9 |
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Re: Civilians and emplacements
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and b) with 2 civis the system can be abused to shit. One can shovel, the other can man the spg. Now you risk killing the civi shoveling the SPG while you shoot the guy in the SPG. No really ideal. Quote:
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The best solution has been posted by viirusiiseli. Dont remove the shovel, just make it an 'illegal' weapon. | |||
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