v1.5.4 Boats

~~C@$PER~~ · 2018-11-12, 22:52

Boats self-destruct after 5 minutes.

[R-DEV]Mineral · 2018-11-13, 00:13

Intended feature as we want them available for re-usage. They are always abandoned;

~~C@$PER~~ · 2018-11-13, 00:42

I strongly believe noobs are a bad excuse at this point. Are boats worth tickets? I have plenty of anecdotes supporting changing the current settings.

[R-MOD]FFG · 2018-11-13, 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by C@$PER

I strongly believe noobs are a bad excuse at this point. Are boats worth tickets? I have plenty of anecdotes supporting changing the current settings.

Rhibs don't cost tickets.

~~C@$PER~~ · 2018-11-19, 07:20

Please change boat settings so they cost tickets and do not self-destruct. After infiltrating enemy territory and executing a near perfect raid of a forward operating base 300 meters inland of the Pavlovsk Bay docks, a US Navy SEAL Team's boat should not self-destruct as they are about to embark and extract just so a Noob can one-man it from the carrier and abandon it somewhere. Do you know how that feels?

Acecombatzer0 · 2018-11-19, 21:52

Leave someone on the gun and it won't self destruct then

~~C@$PER~~ · 2018-11-19, 22:45

We shouldn't have to. I don't have to leave a man behind in a jeep to make sure it doesn't self-destruct. If anything, we might have to guard a vehicle to prevent a noob from snatching it.

Veterans-Gaming · 2018-11-20, 17:01

You seem to miss the point that if certain things were made more realistic as you suggest, it would result in the inability to actually play the game. It is a game, after all. Many of us have been playing this for more than a decade, and certainly the Devs have a good grasp of the necessities of gameplay over realism.

Pointing out floating shrubbery on maps is one thing, but suggesting that we should allow players to become stranded on the carrier on maps such as Pavlovsk is not helpful. And then posting up some SEALs video as if it proves a point is just sad. This game is FAR from a Navy SEALs game - the SOCOM US Navy SEALs game was also far from a Navy SEALs game, and I played those ones online for years. Games are games, and they need to be playable.

No offense intended, but if you want such a level of realism at the expense of playability, you'd want to check out the Arma series, and particularly, the ACE mod along with several others. More than a thousand hours logged myself and I can say that it's the real deal; hurry up and wait with your online platoon for 30 minutes while the brass discusses approach plans, marching for 45 minutes with no contact, engaging targets nearly beyond visuals at the max range of your battle rifles... But some people want faster, squad based combined arms combat gameplay - PR is that middle ground, and it's not gonna change anytime soon AFAIK.

~~C@$PER~~ · 2018-11-20, 18:42

The story was from an actual PR battle. The video depicted very well how we handled that situation. You should take a helicopter, respawn at a FOB or how about don't die and your noob problem will be solved. I stand firm and believe this should be changed because this game wouldn't be the same if only noobs played it. This really isn't too much to ask for. Boats should be treated like every other vehicle in the game. Add a boat or I can figure out something else to make the noobs happy but this game still has room for improvement.

Veterans-Gaming · 2018-11-20, 19:23

Yea, that's not gonna happen.

And to be honest, I didn't watch the video, assumed it was some IRL military dramatization and not some actual PR battle of game footage... still not gonna watch it. It's irrelevant. Nothing is going to change in this respect because it's not just noobs that can get stranded or isolated, and swimming is not an option.

If you run your own server behind a password, you can make your own version of a hardcore PR, but asking that this change be forced on all servers is pretty arrogant, no offense. You should stick with your floating bush reports, because your game design advice doesn't jive with the spirit of PR gameplay.

2018-11-12, 22:52	#1
~~C@$PER~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 39 International	Boats Boats self-destruct after 5 minutes.

2018-11-13, 00:13	#2
[R-DEV]Mineral PR:BF2 Lead Designer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 8,514 Belgium	Re: Boats Intended feature as we want them available for re-usage. They are always abandoned;

2018-11-13, 00:42	#3
~~C@$PER~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 39 International	Re: Boats I strongly believe noobs are a bad excuse at this point. Are boats worth tickets? I have plenty of anecdotes supporting changing the current settings.

2018-11-19, 07:20	#5
~~C@$PER~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 39 International	Re: Boats Please change boat settings so they cost tickets and do not self-destruct. After infiltrating enemy territory and executing a near perfect raid of a forward operating base 300 meters inland of the Pavlovsk Bay docks, a US Navy SEAL Team's boat should not self-destruct as they are about to embark and extract just so a Noob can one-man it from the carrier and abandon it somewhere. Do you know how that feels?

2018-11-19, 21:52	#6
Acecombatzer0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 547 Cayman Islands Location: 29 Stumps	Re: Boats Leave someone on the gun and it won't self destruct then

2018-11-19, 22:45	#7
~~C@$PER~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 39 International	Re: Boats We shouldn't have to. I don't have to leave a man behind in a jeep to make sure it doesn't self-destruct. If anything, we might have to guard a vehicle to prevent a noob from snatching it.

2018-11-20, 17:01	#8
Veterans-Gaming Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 379 United States of America Location: Menifee	Re: Boats You seem to miss the point that if certain things were made more realistic as you suggest, it would result in the inability to actually play the game. It is a game, after all. Many of us have been playing this for more than a decade, and certainly the Devs have a good grasp of the necessities of gameplay over realism. Pointing out floating shrubbery on maps is one thing, but suggesting that we should allow players to become stranded on the carrier on maps such as Pavlovsk is not helpful. And then posting up some SEALs video as if it proves a point is just sad. This game is FAR from a Navy SEALs game - the SOCOM US Navy SEALs game was also far from a Navy SEALs game, and I played those ones online for years. Games are games, and they need to be playable. No offense intended, but if you want such a level of realism at the expense of playability, you'd want to check out the Arma series, and particularly, the ACE mod along with several others. More than a thousand hours logged myself and I can say that it's the real deal; hurry up and wait with your online platoon for 30 minutes while the brass discusses approach plans, marching for 45 minutes with no contact, engaging targets nearly beyond visuals at the max range of your battle rifles... But some people want faster, squad based combined arms combat gameplay - PR is that middle ground, and it's not gonna change anytime soon AFAIK.

2018-11-20, 18:42	#9
~~C@$PER~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 39 International	Re: Boats The story was from an actual PR battle. The video depicted very well how we handled that situation. You should take a helicopter, respawn at a FOB or how about don't die and your noob problem will be solved. I stand firm and believe this should be changed because this game wouldn't be the same if only noobs played it. This really isn't too much to ask for. Boats should be treated like every other vehicle in the game. Add a boat or I can figure out something else to make the noobs happy but this game still has room for improvement.

2018-11-20, 19:23	#10
Veterans-Gaming Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 379 United States of America Location: Menifee	Re: Boats Yea, that's not gonna happen. And to be honest, I didn't watch the video, assumed it was some IRL military dramatization and not some actual PR battle of game footage... still not gonna watch it. It's irrelevant. Nothing is going to change in this respect because it's not just noobs that can get stranded or isolated, and swimming is not an option. If you run your own server behind a password, you can make your own version of a hardcore PR, but asking that this change be forced on all servers is pretty arrogant, no offense. You should stick with your floating bush reports, because your game design advice doesn't jive with the spirit of PR gameplay.